Mongolia archery

MJuingong · Post by **MJuingong** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:08 am

Thank you Mr. Selby.

M??a · Post by **M??a** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:13 pm

On the picture in the start of theme I was first time looking on Mongolian archer using other style, then thumb release. It seems, that itś normal for Mongolians to held an arow on the left side of the bow and sometimes under the nock. As like as Bare Bow .I have a video from Naadam, where is possible to observe something as locator made from little sticks.

Stephen Selby · Post by **Stephen Selby** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:23 am

Yes, it is common for archers in outer Mongolia to use the thumb release shooting over the left side of the bow.

S

bekN · Post by **bekN** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:18 pm

how do you draw from the left hand side of the grip using the thumb draw?
isnt the lack of pressure from the shaft make the arrow draw left?

Noam

Stephen Selby · Post by **Stephen Selby** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:05 am

bekN wrote:how do you draw from the left hand side of the grip using the thumb draw?
isnt the lack of pressure from the shaft make the arrow draw left?

Noam

No, there's no particular effect, any more than the effect felt by beginners using the Mediterranean draw.

mongolianarcher · Post by **mongolianarcher** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:48 pm

M??a wrote: On the picture in the start of theme I was first time looking on Mongolian archer using other style, then thumb release. It seems, that itś normal for Mongolians to held an arow on the left side of the bow and sometimes under the nock. As like as Bare Bow .I have a video from Naadam, where is possible to observe something as locator made from little sticks.

How can I get a bow like this? Or exactly like this if it is identifiable? And please elaborate on mongolian bows to make sure I would like to purchase one. These are Manchu or Qing style right? (because the manchu banned archery for years so they lost the art of pre qing bowmaking) And what should the drawing technique be like?

Stephen Selby · Post by **Stephen Selby** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:35 am

There are three bow styles in Mongolian archery today. 'Gung' (Manchu style), Uryankhai (massive wood self bow) and Khagas (smaller Buryat bow.) The only style normally sold is the Gung style. A number of manufacturers in Mongolia appear to offer them at around US$500. They come in men's, women's and children's sizes as specified in the official divisions of the Naadam. It is normal to have a draw-weight of about 40# for men's bows.

Please note that I can't supply these bows.

Dusan · Post by **Dusan** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:26 pm

Tourist visit mongolian bowmaster and buy bow

-happy young man.

master is Nadaam vinner archer too

good dealing

Hermitking · Post by **Hermitking** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:11 am

I still think the archer is drawing with the thumb. The angle of the fingers that seem to be pulling the string are not parallel with the line of draw. It looks like he is drawing with a thumb, locking the thumb with the second finger and feeling the string with the rest of the fingers.

It only looks like a finger draw because He is not digging his finger tips into his palm. The fingers do not look tight enough to actually be strained by the draw.

daryush · Post by **daryush** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:50 pm

I thought it was a version of the primary release, pinching the arrow between the thumb and first finger.

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:55 pm

Page one begins with Inner Mongolia, China. Then it progresses to Outer Mongolia, a different country to the north of China.

The buyer is visiting the bowyer in Mongolia. (Outer)

daryush · Post by **daryush** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:21 pm

The bowyer on this page on the photos is Tumurhuu Batmunkh. He has a website: http://www.online-mongolia.com/mongolianarchery/. I've just ordered one of his bows and it will be my first horn and sinew bow, for 250 USD.

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:32 am

One of the modern styles on Mongolian archery uses a thumb draw that does not have the fingers of the drawing hand turned into the palm of the hand. This can in its most extreme form have the fingers splayed out with no support under the thumb.

Early photos from Outer Mongolia show the the drawing hand tightly clenched and a longer draw length than common today. The archers are also drawing on the right hand side of the bow. In the 1960s, some Mongolian archers switched sides of the bow to enable a different style of aiming which was closer to Olympic (western) archery. The knuckles of the bow hand were used, sometimes supplemented by marks made with a pen. About the same time, photos shows the more open handed draw.

Most of the Mongol bows I have handled are quite strong, 70-80 pounds. I have seen a Mongolian woman archer easily draw a hundred pound bow. The reason for the tight clench is to get a more reliable release with a strong bow. I think the Mongols of the present time are stronger than their bows and do not have to use some of the old techniques. As I have remarked elsewhere, Mongolian traditional archery is a dynamic sport which maintains its traditions but is still flexible.

As Stephen wrote, you can shoot an arrow on either side of the bow as long as you are consistent. On horseback or using light arrows, the extra stability of having the arrow on the thumb side of the bow is an advantage.

osmiu · Post by **osmiu** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:53 am

well ... maybe we'll learn more at WTAF 2011 ... isn't it ?

Anda · Post by **Anda** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:17 pm

Thanks for the photos, very informative.

Mongolia archery

thumb draw from the left

Re: thumb draw from the left

I think it is a thumb draw...