Grozer biocomposites?

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trad_in_cali
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Grozer biocomposites?

Post by trad_in_cali » Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:43 pm

Hello everybody, I'm new to the Forum, so first of all, thank you for the precious information you've posted. I've been reading up and am ready to buy my first recurve to be shot with a thumb ring. I've been looking at them for a couple of years, and have some funds and time to move forward.

I wanted to know what you all think of the recent Grozer biocomposites. I've been corresponding with him and apparently he's been reworking his designs with biocomposites, and these have allowed him to build his bows closer to the original sizes, more than he used to do with wood laminates. He also states that they do not need a hot box since the glues are modern. Which makes storage in a small city apartment possible. I've heard good things about his Turkish biocomposite from Murat of Tirendaz archery, but I was wondering if anyone else shot a recent (mid-2010 on) model.

Any other input is welcome.
Again, thank you for all your posts.
Marco
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Post by WarBow » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:57 am

The newest biocomposite technology seems promising. The maximum draw weight is higher too if those are not typos.

http://www.grozerarchery.com/htm/torok/biom/j/1.htm

http://nomadbows.com/stock/index.php?ma ... cts_id=844

http://www.grozerarchery.com/htm/magyar/biok/j/1.htm

http://nomadbows.com/stock/index.php?ma ... cts_id=851

Check out this video:

http://www.youtube.com/user/turkisharch ... LWZVFz2uNE

The Assyrian (horn/sinew?) bow is very nice even though it is not authentic.
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Post by daryush » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:57 pm

I'm interested in these new ones as well. The Turkish looks great, and the Tatar also looks very good. I am leaning towards the Tatar for myself, for a longer draw, I draw to 80 cm.

Anyone know how these new bows would compare to the Saluki hybrids, and Spitfire bows?

Thanks!
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Post by WarBow » Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:43 am

Grozer Archery seems to have a YouTube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jXfe2oE ... ideo_title

Ohhh, Dr. Murat already commented :D .
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Post by bpnelson » Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:05 am

I have the Turkish biocomposite. It is the longer (47" strung) version. I just purchased it about two months ago, so it is a fairly new model. Mine is 57@28, and with my arrows I draw it at 65@31. I have to say I am very impressed by it. It is smooth, fast, quiet, everything you could want.

For example: I tried my hand at shooting for distance recently. I was able to send a 400 grain 31" carbon arrow a maximum of 320 yards (my six attempts ranged from 285 to 320 yards).

You really can't go wrong with a biocomposite Turkish. Grozer also makes them in a short (42" strung) model. These can only be drawn to about 30" instead of the 32" that the longer models can be drawn.
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Post by WarBow » Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:51 am

I have the Biocomposite Short Turkish 75#. It is very smooth, soft and fast!

I am tempted to get a 44" 90# Turkish Extra III Composite bow.
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Post by arrowana » Sun May 13, 2012 10:51 pm

Hello everyone. I am new to archery and have recently purchased my first bow. It is a Grozer biocomposite Turkish short 73#.The bow was purchased in April 2012. I have some questions addressed to those of you who already own a bow similar to mine and any help would be most appreciated.

1) After stringing the bow, i notice that one of the limbs(the one which does not have the maker and poundage written on it), there is a very slight twist. The deviation is probably about two to three degrees. When I look down the string of the strung bow, it is straight from one end but not from the other. This is the same even when i rotate the string. The sinew plate of the bow is covered in ox hide. How can i correct this?

2) Unfortunately, i am a terrible craftsman and so i have to rely on aluminum and carbon arrows as wooden arrows are not readily available. My draw length is between 28.5-29.5. Does anyone have recomendations on weight/spine etc so that i dont become broke from trying to figure out what works best?
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Post by M Hardman » Mon May 28, 2012 3:10 pm

Arrowana,

There are instructions on how to deal with twists on Grozer's website,

http://www.grozerarchery.com/index_m.htm

Click on 'Usage' for photgraphs (lower down the page), and 'technical info' no.14 for a more wordy explaination with the same photgraphs.

I possess a older Turkish Base model, which has more twisting than I'd like, but nothing catastrophic has happened yet. When I asked Grozer he pointed me to the same intructions I've mentioned.
Mike
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Post by arrowana » Tue May 29, 2012 1:40 pm

I was hesitant to correct the twist using the method explained by Mr Grozer because those instructions are for composite bows while my bow is the biocomposite. I managed to fix the twist eventually. At first, after stringing the bow, i was holding firmly onto the handle and twisting the kasan of the twisted limb in the opposite direction and holding in the position for about a minute or two. This method corrected the twist for only a few minutes. I then did as Mr Grozer said to pull the bow back and twist and this solved the problem, long may it last.
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