Kaya Korean ?

WarBow · Post by **WarBow** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:26 am

The KTB can send a heavier aluminum arrow down range very fast. I have a dozen newly made Easton XX75 2219 at 32" draw length with 100 grain field tips and 4" feather fletchings. The KTB shoots them out with authority! The arrows were buried 6" deep into the indoor target and I wasn't at full draw.

jchocz · Post by **jchocz** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:34 am

cristian_iepure wrote:...does not intend to promote them as the real Korean bows are promoted) I "suppose" 99.9999999(9)% that this bow is produced in China, and also the quality went down in the past couple of years, because most of WingFighters I've seen lately seem to have problems of construction (twisted limbs, the lack of the epoxy resin between the wood layers that lead to delaminations).

My opinion ... Most shooters damage (destroyed) when shooting a bow without arrows. The same problem arises when shooting arrows with a very low weight (shooter wants to shoot long distance ...). Microcracks are formed in the arms of the bow. The bow is not always immediate harm. Sometimes just a twisted limbs or delamination occurs (miniature). Moreover, the problem does not arise immediately, but after a while.

Good advice - to shoot arrows 8-10 / grain / lb.

It may be a problem, the quality of products from China. In this case, but rather this is not the point.

osmiu · Post by **osmiu** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:49 pm

what about "made in Korea" Samick SKB ? the magnificent korean traditional bow designed by reputated korean company Samick ? a "chinese replica" even with twisted limbs from careless shiping can beat that traditional "made in Korea" bow anytime . at all chapters . from cast , arrow speed , small noise ... to shape of the handle . if it is not destroyed before that test by some that thumbdraw the bow without arrow in it and with a shiny ring on the thumb ... zdrang ! ooops ! sorry ! it slipped ! things that happened "A LOT" in presence of some of our "experts" . or by them .
but not this is important for some . because SKB top chinese replica only at the "reability" . That meant SKB probably can sustain a higher number of dry shots . so is a better bow . more "reliable" . and of course is ... "made in Korea" ... [french]"oooo-laaaa-laaaa"
what is the conclusion of the story ? buy SKB ?
interesting way of thinking . I never see archery in this light before . It's good that someone open my mind to it .

Justin Ma · Post by **Justin Ma** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:14 pm

In defense of the Samick SKB, I shot a friend's 40# SKB recently and thought it was pretty nice. The arrow flew out cleanly. My only concern was the little bit of vibration in the handle after the shot (but I hope a new string with a higher brace height may alleviate that problem).

I'm just a casual observer, but there seems to be a new generation of Chinese bow makers that are active making both traditional and synthetic bows. Their products aren't on the world market yet, but they're part of an active and evolving domestic Chinese market which includes competitive products by Grozer and Korean manufacturers (though I have yet to see any references to the Windfighter on a Chinese forum).

WarBow · Post by **WarBow** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:27 am

I am using Easton XX75 CAMO HUNTER 2219 shafts with a length of 32" from where the string touches the nock to the other end without the tip. The tip is a regular 100 grain field point and the fletchings are three 4" feather. The archery shop owner says these shafts are able to take 70# peak draw weight. Suppose Kaya is able to make a 70# KTB, will the XX75 2219 be underspined? Stephen also says that spine is not too important in Asian archery (thumb draw).

cristian_iepure · Post by **cristian_iepure** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:22 pm

for a heavy bow you need stiffer arrows. I think that 70# @28KTB will increase the weight to 100# at 33", so the stiffer and a little bit heavier arrows (40-45grams) arrows seem to be more fit to use that bow.

Thomas Duvernay · Post by **Thomas Duvernay** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:24 am

Hey, look at me--I'm part of the 2011 Kaya catalogue^^

WarBow · Post by **WarBow** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:58 am

Kaya's 2011 catalogue is still work in progress. We, in North America, can special order the 60# KTB. In fact, I read someone special ordered a 65# version - the maximum Kaya is willing to make.

@Thomas, Kaya's Korean carbon arrows max out at 33.5". Is 34.5" available on special request?

Thomas Duvernay · Post by **Thomas Duvernay** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:55 pm

WarBow,

I'm not sure--you'd have to ask Freddie.

T

Orda Khan · Post by **Orda Khan** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:35 am

Warbow,
Are you drawing over 34"? I think you should consider a Jang gung for arrows that length.

WarBow · Post by **WarBow** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:23 am

@Thomas, I already did but no replies from Freddie yet . . .

@Orda, 34" is the safer bet for now.

Thomas Duvernay · Post by **Thomas Duvernay** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:45 pm

WarBow,

I know that here in Korea, arrows are up to a maximum Korean length (I think 8寸, which is about 33.4"), so that may be the longest they can supply.

T

WarBow · Post by **WarBow** » Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:43 am

Thomas, thanks for the information.

WarBow · Post by **WarBow** » Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:44 am

Folks,

Here is the 2011 Greatree catalogue: http://www.greatreearchery.com/download/gtCatalogue.pdf

Thomas Duvernay · Post by **Thomas Duvernay** » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:33 pm

Freddie asked me to carry over at least some of the 300 catalogues he needs at the ATA trade show in Indianapolis next week.

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