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This is where we discuss the bows, arrows, quivers and other hardware used in Asian archery.
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Paul Slawik
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by Paul Slawik » Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:45 am
Congrats to your Reto-quiver, Jos?! I would love to have one if his quivers as well.
It would be very interesting to know if the the outside pocket was an original idea or a modern invention...
What bow are you waiting for, Jos?? Is it the Crimean Tartar horn bow from Lukas Novotny?!
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Reto
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by Reto » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:21 pm
... I also finished a 5th quiver, here some pics
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Reto
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by Reto » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:22 pm
... One I sold to South America....
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Reto
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by Reto » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:23 pm
... end/fin
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jack farrell
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by jack farrell » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:11 pm
Reto; Very nice. Those look like painted arrows. Can we see a closeup?-j-
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ravenbows
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by ravenbows » Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:30 am
Those are beautiful..........very nice work.
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Bede
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by Bede » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:15 am
For Jos?.
The external pockets on Turkish and Persian quivers start appearing around 1400 in paintings and many surviving quivers have them. In paintings, they are usually shown with normal arrows in them. Abriş arrows (flu-flus) were practice arrows and would not be carried in a war or hunting quiver. Sometimes unfletched arrows with heavy points are shown in the outside pocket with more normal arrows. These are amaji arrows. They were used in sport for qighaj shooting (shooting at a target on the ground at full gallop) and in battle for short range armour penetration.
Originally Mongol open quivers are shown with a square window cut in the outside face of the quiver and arrows are sometimes thrust through the opening. In experimental tests, I found this made it easier to pull out selected arrows without looking at the quiver. Later the pocket appeared. It served the same purpose but more efficiently. In the 17th century in China under the Qing, three slits were cut in the outer face of the quiver to hold three special arrows.
In Tibet and Qajar Persia, two openings were made in the outside face of some quivers to hold two special arrows. Slits in the outside face of the quiver are often combined with pockets in Iran. In these quivers, the unflecthed amaji arrows are kept in a special hole high up towards the front edge of the quiver.
Bede
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Jos?Dom
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by Jos?Dom » Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:49 pm
Thanks for the info.