Bulgarian horn bow 7-9 centry

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Post by Gazzanoo » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:32 pm

Not sure if i am getting this , but it seems like horn on back sinew on belly am i right
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Ram horn

Post by robinhoodfromhun » Sat May 04, 2013 5:29 am

Hi! Could you please upload some photos of preparing ram horn (If you have)?
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Post by Uli » Sat May 04, 2013 5:23 pm

ram horn is really nice to work with.
unfortunately I have not furthered this project yet.
final horn strip: ca. 35cm usable length, 5cm wide and up to 1.5 cm thick

there is a whole article at Tirendaz:
http://www.tirendaz.com/en/?page_id=322
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Post by robinhoodfromhun » Sat May 04, 2013 6:49 pm

Thanks for reply!
As I can see It must be staightened sideway too. Wont it be curved again by time? That could be horrible if it happens on a bow.
Now I started to prepare moufflon horn. That is similar to ram horn but easier to prepare.
Next time I would like to try ram horn too.
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Post by Uli » Sun May 05, 2013 7:12 am

there will be some "hook" in the end as it is not possible to straighten it sideways, you can only flatten it by "unrolling". anyways there is enough material left.

yes if heated it it will curl up again to some degree. however this can be a positive effect for the bow, because the reflex is supported (if you glue it the right way round of course). I imagine that with strongly curled horn like this the effect of the "timar" process could be stronger.
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Post by robinhoodfromhun » Sun May 05, 2013 7:46 pm

What kind of ram was this? We have (here in Hungary) merino sheep, but most of them doesn't have a horn anymore (selection). It must be a really huge one to get big enough horn plate for bow making.
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Post by Uli » Mon May 06, 2013 2:20 pm

DICTUM sheep :D
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Post by robinhoodfromhun » Tue May 07, 2013 6:42 am

Actually I don't know what dictum is, but I guess not a kind of sheep. :)
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Post by Amarutu » Tue May 07, 2013 8:20 am

hehe, yes dictum is a german craftsmen mailorder company with that sort of ram-horn in stock. http://www.mehr-als-werkzeug.de/product ... n-Paar.htm

according to the text its from half wild sheep from the pyrenees.
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Post by Stilian Stefanov » Tue May 07, 2013 8:50 am

Mine were 75 cm in length. Of them did 45 cm plates. Very easy to manipulate with steam. And fixed easily. Much more elastic of the other horns.
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Post by robinhoodfromhun » Tue May 07, 2013 2:18 pm

Thanks all of you for replies. Now I'm a bit smarter. :)
Now I'm trying to use this...[/img]
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Post by Uli » Tue May 07, 2013 8:16 pm

wow .. that makes me yealous :wink:
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Post by robinhoodfromhun » Wed May 08, 2013 6:42 am

The only problem with mouflon horn is there are some (about 4) veins in external edge, that must be burnished off. I was really surprised when I found them after some burnish.
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Post by Stilian Stefanov » Tue May 14, 2013 3:42 pm

Because of the battles of the males, 10 inches of horn cracks.
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