Making a magyar style bow

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Post by leehongyi » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:14 pm

robinhoodfromhun wrote:Sorry, I just found your description about cooking, but how long did you heat the dreg?
Although most glue has been taken away by water, the dreg also contains some glue. Wasting should be avoided so I usually reheat the dreg and water for another hr. the second glue is very thin so you have to heat the filtered liquid long enough to concentrate.
Btw, the liquid glue is always whitish and the dry glue yellow and transparent.
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Post by leehongyi » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:34 pm

just finished applying thin glue on core and horns. it needs more repeated glue applying.
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Post by leehongyi » Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:26 am

glue up.
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Post by leehongyi » Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:16 pm

good weather!
So i cooked another 300g fish bladder for glue.
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Post by Uli » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:10 am

thumbs up.

if you dont use an electric blender to crush the bladders the glue will stay clear.

one can let the undissolved rest of the bladders sediment and use the supernatant clear glue. the undissolved rest can be heated again with more water to get the "2nd" glue.

dont know if that matters but looks nice. IMHO the first clear one is the best.
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Post by robinhoodfromhun » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:03 pm

Uli! Don't you think that, bladder sediment in glue enhance the gap filling properties? I haven't tested it yet, but I think it may helps if one doesn't use matching groves for example.
I think I will do some test with bladder sediment contained glue and "clear" glue.
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Post by Uli » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:27 pm

this is only my personal opinion.
in fact we need the experiment :? - I d like to hear your results !


PS: be careful, if the glue is white like in the pictures it can be because of FAT remains, which will make bad glue (!)
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Post by leehongyi » Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:19 am

No. The white appearance is just right what i want, there is no fat left. When completely dry the glue is transparent. Of course the longer keep the bladder in cooking, the more transparent looking of the liquid glue, but the more hydrolysis of it. I took only 3 hours to completed the procedure so as to reduce hydrolysis. the juice extractor helped me a lot. And i know the ancient chinese used the glue came from repeatly pounding bladder and an old saying?A good man cannot pound 3 liangs glue per day.? (3 liang eqals 150g)
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Post by leehongyi » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:48 am

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Post by Uli » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:54 am

nice 8)
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Progress

Post by Jake Levi » Sun May 04, 2014 11:44 am

Very very nice, very professional. :D

Any updates ?

What is your core width?
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Post by jkekoni » Fri May 09, 2014 6:45 am

Bulletwood (Manilkara bidendata) ?
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Post by Jake Levi » Fri May 09, 2014 11:41 am

Beautiful work. I really like those knives, how many teeth per cm?
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