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PAZUZU
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Post by PAZUZU » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:08 pm

  • veki,
    i bought horns from highland two years ago, have no idea now how it is. i produce sturgeon bladder glue.
robinhoodfromhun
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Post by robinhoodfromhun » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:57 am

Hi! How do you glue the horn? You should use at least 10 layers of 2-3% hide glue then finaly a lot of (about 40g) 30-35% glue.
veki
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Post by veki » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:29 pm

Hi,
as I already told, I did not add more than 7 or 8 coatings with some 5% glue and then I used lots of 25 % glue. Next time I will do this better with also more time. Maybe I also mix the hide glue with surgeon bladder glue. Or is this not a good idea?
Thanks for these posts guys!
robinhoodfromhun
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Post by robinhoodfromhun » Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:04 am

Sorry, I didn't read ewerything. :oops: Your way is not that bad. Perheaps you can optimize it. Hide glue should be good enough. I wouldn't blame it.
How deep are your grooves? Are they matching or not?
veki
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Post by veki » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:41 pm

I'm using matching grooves, they are some 2mm deep (triangle). When I put the parts together before gluing, they really go together and seem to match.
But, anyhow, I just have to be more careful with all things.
Does somebody have experience with mixing hide glue and surgeon bladder glue?
mikekeswick
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Post by mikekeswick » Fri Apr 01, 2016 4:56 pm

I'm sure it would mix ok although I've never actually done it myself!
Different collagen glues gel at different rates (temperatures) so the main reason to mix glues or use one over another would be if one types gelling didn't suit your workspace temperature. I have problems with hide/sinew glue gelling too quickly as it is rarely above 10 - 15 degs in my workshop. I'm about to get some yellow croaker swimbladders as I've read that this glue gels more slowly than hide/sinew.
As far as strength goes I think that any of these glues if they form a firm gel are amply strong.
veki
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Post by veki » Tue May 17, 2016 7:59 pm

Hi, here an update for this one.
I just came home from shooting with this.
Everything went good, it works like it should.

After the break I glued it, wrapped it (to be sure I wrapped both sides)and put again leather on. I made it again a little bit weaker( I'm not that strong), I think it has now some 55-56 lb at 26".
I haven't drawn it more until now, I'm just happy to be able to shoot it.
veki
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Post by veki » Tue May 31, 2016 12:15 pm

Hi,
one picture of this one in 24" draw.
It has blue goatskin on.
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mikekeswick
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Post by mikekeswick » Fri Jun 03, 2016 6:54 am

I'm glad it has worked for you :)
Now pull her back to 28!
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