The bow- finding of olon kurin gol

redhawk · Post by **redhawk** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:39 am

Redhorse and others who are interested in asymmetrical bow- designs:

I?ve opened a topic: old designs reloaded- asymmetrical bow- designs in the PALEOPLANET primitive bowyers forum, go to www.paleoplanet69529.yuku.com.

Michael

Reto · Post by **Reto** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:44 am

... interesting, but I like ATARN better
Reto

Hyarmendacil · Post by **Hyarmendacil** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:10 am

I read your thread over there, and actually there's a mechanical explanation for the sharply asymmetrical design of the Japanese yumi here:

http://eclay.netwiz.net/translat/kyudo.htm

It contains a small mistake regarding how the te-no-uchi method of gripping the bow is executed, but otherwise the information is very good (and the theory sounds highly plausible to boot).

redhawk · Post by **redhawk** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:54 pm

Reto, me too, I?m an Atarno.
Just time- management has taught me to post this topic in the PALEOPLANET, cause there was an actual question focused on asymmetry in bow- designs. It is a large topic!
I would propose to those who are interested go to the PALEOPLANET, read my report and we can open a discussion here too.

Michael

Redhorse · Post by **Redhorse** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:23 pm

It should have some advantage or they would never use the asymmetrical bow.
About the PP, I think the Atlantic ocean is in between

they prefer to stay in the Anglo world.
When will you write about the tests?

redhawk · Post by **redhawk** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:48 am

I?ve opened the asymmetrical bow-designs- thread. Go to "making bows, arrows and stuff"!

Michael

Stephen Selby · Post by **Stephen Selby** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:26 am

At some point I promised someone that I'd post my field drawings of the Yanghai Scythian-type bows. Now you can get them here:

http://www.atarn.org/chinese/Yanghai/yanghai.htm

Dusan · Post by **Dusan** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:19 pm

Thats wonderfull !!! Thanks! Not only your drawing Stephen . I dont see to this time, these super surviving bows !

redhawk · Post by **redhawk** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:40 pm

Stephen, thanks a lot............

you?ve sent me these recordings, but without the pics you?ve taken...great...................

Michael

Dusan · Post by **Dusan** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:20 pm

Mybe here is good place for some informative ilustration from russian sites . Its from Saka burials in Russian teritory.

bones from skita bows :1-kurgan2-Volkovcy, 2-kurgan 503 Brovarki, 3 -Romensk , 4-Budki, 5 kurgan 17-Novoaleksejevka (Lazurnce), 6 -kurgan 7 Zdanov, 7- Belskij

ends part of bow from horn or bones : 1-Temir mountain,2- Zabotin, 3-Serogozi, 5- Komarovskij kurgan,6-Novoaleksandrovka,7-Zivie,8-Podgorodnoe and last is Elb bow for example...

woods slats vith birch cover in -Tri bratja mogylnik- (3 brothers burial)

art from old belt- Tlyjskyj mogylnik

drawings bows in goritos 1-Ternovka,2-Sachnovka,3-omar

archers in sword case.

drawing from Olva burial

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:00 am

The highly curved pieces in the second drawing are actually bridle decorations from horse equipment. The exception is the long bow tip added for comparison. This has led to some drawings being inaccurate as well. At the time the original identification was made, the author may not have had access to the most recent analysis of these pieces.

Dusan · Post by **Dusan** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:47 pm

More and more from Russian findings old hunic burials.
Man vith bow in 3 diferent kurgans:

from Mogylnik Visokoye

2-Visokoye

3-visokoye

Dusan · Post by **Dusan** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:04 am

Mogylnik Solonci- No.3 bow artifacts

Mog.2-Monashka-No.1-handle bone plate

No.2-3 bone plates

bone details from Monashka vith birch bark

det. from Monashka

det. Visokoye

Visokoye and Tchegerack I

Solonci and Cayanskij

Dusan · Post by **Dusan** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:30 am

Fantastic saka gold goritos . From Tolstoy mogylnik

Matyugino Mog.(6,7 x 3,5 cm)

Goritos found in Makedonyja for compare

detail

Karagodenashskaya mog.

details

compare det.from Karagodenashskaya in Gorit from Makedonia

gor.from Sorockij

Tchertomlika

Iljincov

Iljinci, Solocki-gorit bottom

Piatibratnevo (+bottom)

Melitopolskij kurgan- gorit vith war belt

other side

+ bottom

pektoral cup from Tlstaja mogilnik

cups vith goritos -Haymannovaya mogilnik-

Dusan · Post by **Dusan** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:38 pm

next interesting saka findings

Mosul -4 arowheads in one shape

nort Black sea

Novotcherkesk

arrovwheads vith personal marks- Bukrino

Findins in Jagorlickij.

This skyths arovwheads vith personal marks are founding in Slovakia- interesting comparison

but this is king ! Found in Czech rep. Morava region Mstenice

det.

Ukraina "detektor fun" findings

same detektor amateur found in gorit bronz and iron arovwheads glued each other

+ bone arowheads vith triangular disain

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