Interesting Asiatic Bows in Russian Collections

Dusan · Post by **Dusan** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:58 am

Maybe this looks like movie pics , but its another reconstructions from Kulikovo Pole muz.

Maybe same autor- Pochmelnov

. If i good remember Russian - he have funy name - "pochmelie "is , when you too much alkohol drinking

. Its from word "chmel" -one of beer substancion...

Gleb · Post by **Gleb** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:47 am

Michael,

The Kulikovo Pole bow reconstruction looks roughly and made with inaccuracy for me. It seems to be that they took Novgorod bow and added to construction the bone and deer horn plates occurred so often in steppes. As far as I know this bow does not repeat any of excavated original.
The bow wrapped with birch-bark, the grip and end plate made of bone or deer horn.

That’s all what I know about this bow reconstruction.
Not too much.

redhawk · Post by **redhawk** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:53 am

Thanx a lot, Gleb,

this reconstrution really makes me wonder, cause I?ve been in Novosibirsk(invited by the Russian Academy of Science) for to examine the olon kurin gol- excavations. The Russian archaeologists permitted me to study other excavated parts of bows. They?ve excavated thousands!
But I can?t remember a bow looking like the Kulikovo- bow.

Michael

Gleb · Post by **Gleb** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:21 am

Dusan!

Yes, it’s very interesting quiver for me. How should we name it (maybe orbed-flat bottom closed quiver?). Any additional information on this quiver?

On the second pictures from that Korean museum Taklamakan you posted – the arrows laying on looking-quiver object. May anybody have the better picture&

On the orbed-flat bottom quiver: It’s remind me the quiver depicted on Polovets statues once standing in Russian, Ukrainian and North Caucasus steppes. Please take a look on the new theme on them I opened (only for comfort as in this theme too many pages already).

Dusan · Post by **Dusan** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:20 pm

Maybe Thomas D , Stephen or somebody who know more about Korean museums can say more about this pics.

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:54 am

The third quiver is a Tibetan quiver. There are several in the Metropolitan Museum of Art. They probably include parts that date back to the Yuan Dynasty.

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:37 am

Note the bow on page 3 below the caption; "Uzbek national muzeum, terible if this horsarchers country have only fue bows in museum and more from them are chinese" and the next two after are Hunza from Afghanistasn. This is only one of three I know of.

Two other pics of the quiver in the Silk Road museum in South Korea. A Mongol invasion era archery set like the straitish one now in Houston, can we call it the HMNS bows and arrows as there is absolutley no provenience on the bows. The only difference between this quiver and the HMNS one is the round top on the Houston one and the square top {Now missing ) on the Silk Road one.

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:40 am

There are supposedly plenty more Central Asian bows in storage in Russian museums.

Good comment on Chinese bows though. There ARE more of these in CA museums.

Gleb · Post by **Gleb** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:30 am

Sorry, friends, I've promised to open a new theme on Polovets statues quivers - but my computer catched something in the net and I I to reinstall the system. Hopefully it will takes just few days.

Sincerely, Gleb

Dusan · Post by **Dusan** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:27 am

Taman muzeum(Kozaks teritory) bone plates

Novgorod arrows findings

Artilerie Muzeum -Sibir

Dusan · Post by **Dusan** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:51 pm

Hunish findings

Enisej mog.

Eenisej det.

Enisej det.

15 a ,b, 16 are bone bow plates

details of horse equip.

iron and bronze things

Dusan · Post by **Dusan** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:52 pm

Gleb ,maybe you dont know this - Kairka findings

Dusan · Post by **Dusan** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:44 am

New portion of russians museums. I starting vith very interesting thing -looks like NEW version of old thumbrings !

Its found in Aydasinskaya cave near Tchulim river and Achinsk town . 6-500 bc. Russians archeologist give name this cultur from first fond mogylnik near Sargatka village -Sargat cultur.This arrowheads is too from Sargats . Intersting is big diferences - arrows a was 10cm long and b-4cm.

this is art reconstruction a lght archer from Tashtinska cultur group-skitas tribes -all details is rec. from found artefacts from Tepsey mogylnik

this is mumie mask, from this mogylnik

Same Tashtinska cultur reconstruction of haevy archer . Some things from his armour are found and this type of archer was sketch in wood plate

and now same old turkish founds in Yakonur mog.. About this horn plates rus. arche, said that in his shortern long is visivle midle disain betveen Huns stile bows and old turkish stile.

Yakonurs arrowheads

art reconstruction old turkish archer

reconstruction old turkish horse haevy armour. Vith this big armour can horse only trot.Tail near the horse mouth is mostly against agresive fly.

in spme old turkish stone figurs is visible how worked mans belt

fantastic reconstruction skitas clothe

reconstruction from Ardzan kurgan - from "Kings valley"

maybe some details like this from Jaks post

ukraina found bronze form

skit riders in vase

Solochskij kurgan

Ardzjan gold braslet

Hermes kurgan

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:00 pm

I have noticed that some of these pictures show the bow gripped below what we would call the handle. By that I mean the centre of the setback.

Redhorse · Post by **Redhorse** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:17 pm

Would that no be sense? That way you have a nice angle in your wrist. Instead of a bend.

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