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Hi Katie,
Just home from Texas, have not had a chance to view the Mythbusters video yet but will tonight. Hope that all is well with you.
Hope to see you before too long.
All the best,
Alan
Just home from Texas, have not had a chance to view the Mythbusters video yet but will tonight. Hope that all is well with you.
Hope to see you before too long.
All the best,
Alan
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yari throwing
Hi all, I'm a newby here on the site.
Tent pegging is also known by a small group in the Netherlands.
They are almost as big as our bajutsu group.
Somehow I am better with a spear, although I'm not a bad archer.
We use normal sport spears but I am thinking of making my own yari.
I expect they work different than longer spears.
Does anyone know anything about Asian spear throwing technique?
It can be aimed throwing or "accidental" like the Romans did, hurling it at a group in tortoise formation when it turned over, toppled and might find a whole in the formation.
Thanks for any advice.
Frank
Tent pegging is also known by a small group in the Netherlands.
They are almost as big as our bajutsu group.
Somehow I am better with a spear, although I'm not a bad archer.
We use normal sport spears but I am thinking of making my own yari.
I expect they work different than longer spears.
Does anyone know anything about Asian spear throwing technique?
It can be aimed throwing or "accidental" like the Romans did, hurling it at a group in tortoise formation when it turned over, toppled and might find a whole in the formation.
Thanks for any advice.
Frank
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"Is throwing javelins off a horse another myth/Kassai fantasy?"
In his recent book "Byzantine Cavalryman c900-1214", Timothy Dawson has a photo (page 57) from Anatolia in the 1960s showing turks playing a javelin game, standing up in their stirrups and, seemingly, throwing a javelin at their opponent. The photo is copyright National Geographic and thus presumably appeared in one of their magazines within the past 40 years or so.
He also has this to say about Byzantine horse archers equipment (I presume he means regular troops rather than hired mercenaries)
"Their main armament was, of course, the bow, a composite recurve with a smooth profile, rather than the Central Asian style with 'ears', carried strung in a case on the left side. . . .They carried 30 to 40 arrows at a time, contained point outermost in a cylindrical quiver hung from the belt. . .The ubiquitous fletching method for horse archery arrows is four flights framing the nock, allowing the arrow to be nocked either way simply by touch."
In his recent book "Byzantine Cavalryman c900-1214", Timothy Dawson has a photo (page 57) from Anatolia in the 1960s showing turks playing a javelin game, standing up in their stirrups and, seemingly, throwing a javelin at their opponent. The photo is copyright National Geographic and thus presumably appeared in one of their magazines within the past 40 years or so.
He also has this to say about Byzantine horse archers equipment (I presume he means regular troops rather than hired mercenaries)
"Their main armament was, of course, the bow, a composite recurve with a smooth profile, rather than the Central Asian style with 'ears', carried strung in a case on the left side. . . .They carried 30 to 40 arrows at a time, contained point outermost in a cylindrical quiver hung from the belt. . .The ubiquitous fletching method for horse archery arrows is four flights framing the nock, allowing the arrow to be nocked either way simply by touch."
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The game is still played in Turkey and if you look up "cirit" on Google.
http://images.google.com.au/images?clie ... e&resnum=4
It has rules that may date back to Byzantine times or earlier if you compare some of the contests to some of the Roman cavalry exercises. The javelins are a metre or so long. There are sets of two or three in quivers for attachment to the saddle surviving from the 17th and 18th centuries.
Tim's comments are not supported by the current research though his description of the source painting is likely to be accurate since he is a very precise observer. The problem with Byzantine representations is their strong classical influence, even in the provinces. In regard to the fletching, standard oriental fletching with three feathers can be used either way up and, up to ninety metres, I have noticed no difference in the flight of the arrows. Four feather fletching is good for close range and might be an advantage in horse archery competitions.
http://images.google.com.au/images?clie ... e&resnum=4
It has rules that may date back to Byzantine times or earlier if you compare some of the contests to some of the Roman cavalry exercises. The javelins are a metre or so long. There are sets of two or three in quivers for attachment to the saddle surviving from the 17th and 18th centuries.
Tim's comments are not supported by the current research though his description of the source painting is likely to be accurate since he is a very precise observer. The problem with Byzantine representations is their strong classical influence, even in the provinces. In regard to the fletching, standard oriental fletching with three feathers can be used either way up and, up to ninety metres, I have noticed no difference in the flight of the arrows. Four feather fletching is good for close range and might be an advantage in horse archery competitions.
Bede
