Mughal Bamboo arrow in SAMA

Reto · Post by **Reto** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:23 am

See also http://atarn.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1039

Thanks Stephen

Reto

Reto · Post by **Reto** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:30 am

Reto · Post by **Reto** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:32 am

M??a has all the dimension in case you are interested in Indo-Persian arrowheads......

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:27 am

Reto; Good pictures, as usual for you. Are the red and green arrows on page one from Rajistan, then? And what of the others with the pieced together metal ferules at the points? Going to Korea? -j-

Reto · Post by **Reto** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:49 pm

... the red,green arrows are from its origin area/province Rajistan (... now in a Museum)

. The pictures with the arrowheads are made for the arrowsmith so I can do my replicas. They are from my arrows I bought during my last business trip in India. I have a small, but nice, private collection of Indian arrows.

I am afraid this year I cannot come to Korea due to the return home. We get our belongings/container stuff by end of September and move in our new home by Oct 1st, 2009. I will try to make it next year.

Reto

PjSingh · Post by **PjSingh** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:49 pm

Mr Farrell,the arrow in the texas meuseum seems more like an arrow from one of the muslim principalities rather than Kashmiri,I could be wrong ofcourse but I have seen arrows similar the one you have photographed in uttarpradesh.

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:32 am

Reto; Did you notice the splice in the shafts of the first red arrows? How about your own arrows? Are they spliced?

The second set is somewhat of a tool kit in that they all have the same crest but are of different lengths and radically different point weights. Thanks for sharing and the link was good to see again.

When I see those narrow quiver tubes like the ones in the link I am reminded of flight shooting because so few arrows fit into them and they often lack any method to wear them.

PJ Singh; I noticed on wikipedia that Uttar Pradesh contains some tribal areas. This is what i would have expected of the SAMA arrow. Do you have any pictures of Indian arrows with provenience?

PjSingh · Post by **PjSingh** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:34 pm

Mr,Farrell unfortunately I do not have any pictures of the arrows that I saw in India as I was out with some friends and these people i met were out hunting in the same area as us and they were carrying bows and arrows,they were bhil tribals.Surprisingly these tribals do not use a thumb draw but 3 fingers with a very interesting story that goes along with it.

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:03 pm

It's your nickel.

Adam Karpowicz · Post by **Adam Karpowicz** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:37 pm

I have a neat slow motion video of such arrow hitting a metal plate I made a couple of months ago, but can not show it yet due to the copyright issues with a TV company which owns. The thin bamboo shaft flexes greatly, but the arrow penetration is quite good.

Adam

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:15 am

Reto sent this message; Hi Jack

I am currently working on 5 Indo Persian arrows, because I will get the arrowheads beginning of October, after arrival of our stuff from Shanghai.

Question: how about colors and paintings on bamboo. Does it stay on the arrow shaft and how about the hide glue on the feathers on the painting. Did you have some problems with one of them? How do your arrows look like after usage/certain period of time?

I made a test and the colors went a little bit off, so I decided to paint it twice before putting on the decoration and latter on the feathers.

Thanks for your reply maybe on your existing post about SAMA arrows, ....

Best regards
Reto

PS: Can u post me some pics of your Indio-Persian arrows?

Reto; These are a new set of blunts in the Indo-Persian taste which I am taking to Korea to shoot at Mongolian style targets.

The paint is put directly on the prepared shaft which has been well sanded with #100 grit paper. The paint is Testors paint for model makers bought at the art store in incredibly small glass jars. It dries in minutes and holds up very well for years. The designs are authentic. 23k goldleaf and paper checkerboard crest.

A thin line is scraped off the paint down to bare wood to attach the fletch. I prefer tightbond glue because it adheres quickly.

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:22 am

The designs are the same but put on randomly. Each arrow is individual but is hard to tell apart. Goose 4-fletch.

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:28 am

Dogwood stick blunts with a small steel insert face. Arrow weight 24 grams. Wild black cherry bark.

Reto · Post by **Reto** » Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:58 am

Hi Jack

Thanks a lot for the great pictures! I am so sorry I cannot make it to join you in Korea.

I am at the very beginning of the process and now I have to go the the shop again to change. The feathers will be from goose (I need to finish also) and the arrowheads I will put on after arrival of our stuff in October

Attached one picture of my test about color, glue and feathers, which was the reason to ask you...

The final arrows will look differently, I will give my best.

Best regards
Reto

Reto · Post by **Reto** » Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:01 am

... and here a picture of the 5 bamboo shafts I am working on...

Reto

PS: I will keep you updated, once I have finished them