The influence of Islam on Persian and Turkish archery

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Post by Alam ed Din, Adnan » Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:17 am

Knight term is usually used for Christians such as the Crusaders you've mentioned. They had nothing like Wu-Shu practice.
Muslims on the other hand have the possibility to join a mystical Sufi Order
which through oral transmission teaches the student under a Peer/ Ustadh/
or Master a spiritual path to find God . So there is a similarity to Wu-shu here, but still its far from being l i k e Wu-Shu. :)

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Post by jiao » Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:11 am

wo......you are know what are "Christianity cross army attack to east"(Crusaders) and chinese wu-shu
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Post by Alam ed Din, Adnan » Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:35 pm

yes, in fact I do know a bit about it.........
I have some"chinese muslim friends". They are Uighurs and they are from
East Turkestan or what you call "autonomus region of Xing Jiang". They are
a turkic people. We often meet and cook fried dumplings or handmade noodles together. Actually, in China there is a big muslim community.
15 million muslims or more. Some are also using the Han language like the Hui muslims.......Just in case you want to know more about Islam.............
I believe the Hui muslims are descendants of Arab settlers and traders who
during the centuries mixed with Han chinese, but keeping their culture to a
certain extend. You can check a forum on this by following the url

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http://www.islamcn.net/bbs/dispbbs.asp ... 12&page=88
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Post by jiao » Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:16 am

:D
i can tell you before today , i am not take these hui is islamic,we are not call islamic, we are called islamic is hui
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Post by Alam ed Din, Adnan » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:32 pm

Sorry, but I didn't understand your last post.

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Post by Alam ed Din, Adnan » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:47 pm

Jiao:
Also, I find the term " islamic" in this sense a bit uncorrect.
We refer to ourselfs as "muslim" and not islamic. Our religion is called
"Islam" (lit. peace) and some things or happenings in muslim countries may be refered to as "islamic" but I wouldn't use this term in general.
I would suggest that you edit the titel of your topic into " The influence
of Islam on Persian and Turkish archery". That would be correct.

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Post by Alam ed Din, Adnan » Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:47 am

Jiao, !أهلا وسه
Here an interesting site on knowledge,science & gnosis.
It mentions archery towards the end............
[url] http://www.brainworker.ch/reports/yemen/345PPLA.html

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Post by jiao » Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:32 am

i am very thanks you are post more useful about it , i can read it but i am sure a few or a lot are wrong, i am often interesting other culture, because it contain more differ concept, i want to know how each concept and culture starting(nativity,formation)and develop

what differ the islamic,Islam,muslim,hui-muslim?
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Post by Alam ed Din, Adnan » Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:22 pm

Welcome!
I would like to quote Taibuga al Ashrafi:
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[quote]It is established in authentic tradition, that the Prophet said, "The angels attend no human sport save archery". Archers should therefore be aware of the exalted station of angels who attend them and should rank them as guests and respect them, for the Prophet said, 'if a man beliefe in God and the Last Day, let him do honour to his guest.' Going to the shooting range (marma), then should be regarded by the archer as going to the mosque, and he should consider those with whom he consorts there as leaders of men and persons of the highest standing. Likewise he should think of his training in archery as traning in religious knowledge. He should therefore make a practice of first performing a lesser ablution and set about his business, praising God with tongue and hart as he makes for one of the gardens of paradise with the peace of God upon him and with dignity of bearing. When he reaches his destination (i.e. the range), he should enter politely, greeting all those present with the words, 'Peace be upon you!' He would do well also to perform to rak'ahs in an act of worship. It is not a matter of saluting the actual place, but rather a key to safe-keeping, success, and accurate shooting; for if proceedings are opened with an act of worship, they will be worthy of a happy issue and will be blessed with God's good direction and sucess. The archer should next say a private prayer and ask God - exalted be He - for guidance and good direction, and, in asking for guidance, remember to ask that you be guided in the right path, and in asking for good direction, remember to ask that the arrow be well directed to the mark.'[/unquote]
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Jiao,
concerning your question on Muslim terminology:
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Islam-name of our Religion
Muslim- a follower of Islam
islamic- off muslim heritage/ or off a muslim period/manufacture/thinking
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besides, there are other terms used by Non-Muslims such as:
Mahomedan
Mohammedan
Musalman(sometimes Indian Muslims refer to themself's like this)
Saracene (medieval term)
Tatar(Russians sometimes generalize Muslims as "Tatars")
Islamist (a term used by Westerner's to refer to ultra orthodox Muslims)

...probably there are some more, but this is what I remember.......

Peace be upon you!

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