Long Draw issue

Claeys Christophe · Post by **Claeys Christophe** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:57 pm

Hi,

Some weeks ago, I decided to try a long draw, I mean that instead of anchoring at the mouth corner, I anchored right under my ear.
(I use a mediteranean release)

Of course, energy storage went up, and I got a flatter flight and an exciting arrow speed ... no question about that.

But my arrows kept grouping about one foot to the left of the bull-eye, at 18-20 meters.

I kept trying this during 5/6 training, about 400 arrows shot, and the left grouping remained very consistent
So I decided to go back to my shorter draw, as I didn't want to change my instinctive aiming, took me well enough time to grow it

Was my experience "logical", is it normal to shoot left when one use a long draw with a mediteranean release ?
Or am I plagued by some bad gesture or position ?

Thxs for your feed-back
... and a feed-back like "use a thumbring, you jackass" would not help me much to understand what happened, even it's the right solution !

Uli · Post by **Uli** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:12 pm

use a thumbring, you jackass

no just kidding
well in my limited experience
(I can only shoot well with thumb ring)
deviation and fishtailing decrease with longer draw.

ravenbows · Post by **ravenbows** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:15 pm

LOL............right just use a thumb ring and you will not have this issue.

Actually you might though.......the longer draw has increased the amount of energy transferred to the arrow. Because of this you are getting a softer arrow which is why you are hitting left now.

Am I right in the fact that you are left handed? Shooting the arrow on the right side of the bow?

If you have light spined arrows you will start seeing them group to the opposite the arrow is passing the bow.

Hopefully that makes sense.

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:33 am

Another simple explanation is that the nock of the arrow is next to your ear which means it is to the right of its normal position for your original draw. You might be able to correct this by canting the upper limb of bow to the right.

Drawing to the ear with a Mediterranean release, even the two fingered Flemish release, was common in mediaeval times. It is natural for an instinctive archer to have an issue with changing draw lengths and anchor points.

Another thing that might have changed is the angle you are holding your head to the target. This also would change the relationship between the line of sight and the direction of the arrow.

Changing draw lengths or changing release techniques will have an effect of your aiming.

Stephen Selby · Post by **Stephen Selby** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:05 am

All of the above. Much of the problem will be with additional hand shock that you had not anticipated from your previous draw method. The problem will disappear with practice. There is no need to change to a thumb draw.

Claeys Christophe · Post by **Claeys Christophe** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:35 am

Thxs for your replies

Raven, your logic is OK but I shoot with my arrow on the left side of the bow, so in fact the longer draw/heavier poundage is probably palying in my favour ... but not enough

I agree that the different leads you gave me are all true, but I strongly suspect Bede points are the most impacting.

I will keep trying !