Dusan's Bows (discussion)

[Dusan]

I cant agree vith you Redhorse. Draw weight is very important. 40 pounds was ... for children. In another point you are right ,draw weight + like i write - good balanced extrem light etc... bow. + goood arow + goood archery technik

(Good example that not only draw weight is important is if i dont mistake Scendomendez 120 lb bow posting somwhere in Atarn . Shooting only about 250 m(but arrow in pic and archer technik was ...bad - who know)

Like i once write one of mi bows shoot about 400m(+-) but , to this days i dont measure speed or fd-curve. I think that past bows generation was not this quality. Maybe this generation i measure more preciouse... if show me more
I can tell you that no one from this 8bows was lighter than 100 lb /some was about 140 /

[PjSingh]

dusa old man do act your age rather than like an all knowing old man,I have a lot of respect for you but there are a lot of people who like learning which is the reason for this forum so PEOPLE LIKE ME CAN LEARN FROM OLDER AND MORE EXPERIENCED TEACHERS,like someone else pointed out the newcomers can teach you a few things as well,the mind is like a parachute,it has to be open to work,everything I have seen on this forum teaches me,unlike your sayings if it does not preform I will not talk about it.
Like my teacher says to me too often,push it to its limits and when it blows you will know how to improve,I would sooner post my falieurs than the successful bows,because I think of Atarn AS A THINK TANK RATHER THAN A CRITICISUM,point out my mistakes and I will learn.
The reason I do not have any picks posted is because you all have taught me of the mistakes and have learnt what i was doing wrong.
with all due respect we learn more from what fails than what works,sSo again with all due respect put up or shut up.
cheers time for a drink.

[Redhorse]

Dusan, your wrong in thinking. The quality in a bow is not how strong it is, the quality is how much of the input energy you get in the arrow.
There for a 140lb that shots 400 meter can still be a poor bow if its efficiency is poor. A 70 lb that makes350 can be much better bow.
My guess is that in old times they just made a stronger bow so they could shot faster. And they were in condition for that, most of us are not.

[Dusan]

I write same Redhorse- i agree about energy input in arrow - only same energy vith heavy bow - thats it . I like it. What can or dont todays archers its not mi problem . I can

[Redhorse]

I write same Redhoirse- i agree about energy input in arrow - only same energy vith heavy bow - thats it . I like it. What can or dont todays archers its not mi problem . I can

what one can draw has not anything to do with the bow quality. My point is that any healthy man should draw his body mass in kilos in pounds in a bow. If your body mass is 80 kg you should draw 80 lb with no problem, if not, you are not healthy. A kid less of course and so for us senior citizens also

[Reto]

In Chinese "Shefu" means master of .... and in the old time it took years to get on this level and only experienced elder people teach the next generation.

"you tell me something - I am listening"
"you show me something - I will watch and see"
"you let me do something - I do understand"

Atarn is a new media where people from all over the world share their know-how, experience and failures with others.

You may be extreme in your thinking, but far away of becoming a master, even you build the best horn bows in Europe. Many of the posted pictures we could find in the web our in books ourselves (except visits in museums, but there we should respect the copyright)

I simply think in the old world/time you would have been banned off the bowery society up to the moment you were on a level to talk, to teach and to master properly - But it also might be, that somebody would have given you a lesson and shoot you to the moon.

From my point of view I would not miss your comments in ATARN.


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[PjSingh]

it takes more courage to talk a bout your falieurs than to talk about success.the day i am able to say that I am better vthan you is the day I should die.In my culture a man is given the title of master when he has taught countless students,Dronacharya was distraught with his life because he cursed himself for having to sell his knowledge to the kings sons,and as in my culture he is regarded as the greatest teacher because he taught his pupil Arjun more than he taught his own son,If you are not willing to share your knowledge you are just being arrogant. [Ed. Selby]

[Dusan]

Very complicatet english to me , Reto. If i understand right - simply -you mean that i am so arogant man. (PjSingh i dont understand nothing...) . You both talket somthing about teachers and masters.

I haevnot any motivation be a teacher or master. I dont remember if i was rude or insult anybody. I only say what i thinking. Free ,vith no compromise.
We all live in real live vith many compromises. Somtime only in your hobby you can tell what you think vithout compromises. Because this haevnt negative influence to your profesion work,money or comunity where you live...

If you are full in your hobby - more than you thinkink before- in start, you become more and more fanatic. If not - you dont spendt so much time , money, and big part of your personal live.You dont feel this ? Than you can say and stay in more extrem position. Maybe thats it .

I have only one question ? How we endid in psychoanalik sesion about me ? Question was in start: make Dusan bows or only poisonous babble /dictionary /

[Stephen Selby]

Folks: I think we all know each-others' views now. Can we drop this and get back to business?