Dusan wrote:Peter, thanks for answer, but when you made replicas , you must colected all historical and archeologist sources ( i believe you do). What you write show the oldest mistake in hun reconstruction disain.
Dont think that i or another Atarnos dont know about old hun or another static ears tipe bows. Hun and other midleeast or Mongolian step tribes live some bone plates in his "road". Not only in Hungaria, but in Slovak teritory (north from Dunay ) evan in Czechia . (Hungary teritory and pusta was oldest Slavs teritory - but this is another thema)We have not only Hun bon plates but Avar bows plates too. Same bone plates was in many archeological finds in Ukraina, Gruzia , Mongolia...(You can see in mi "Russian archeological findings)
What is more important , in Ukraina /Kaukaz/ find All bows ! Not only bone plates. You certainly know Moshevaya Balka bows ! No one from this bows haevnt this big haevy joint -
any historical limit ! If bones have groves- its not because need binding , but because sinew layer continue to static ear part.
I know that static , no worked ears bows is not same like Turkish or Korean bows
believe me ....
This stile of bows was very big famili from Siberia to China in very small or biggest diferences . But you and your bowmakers friends from Hungary have lucky , because many of this bows was found especialy in dry china deserts in very good condition( Korean museums etc.). You can teach in real fregments - not only from fantasy archeologist K?roly Cs. Sebesty?n .
Can you show us more Madyar bowmakers , his bows - more about todays Madyar bowmakers live ? From yours videos its looks like you have very intensive workshops
( I have more questions /for ex. why some Madyars identify vith Hun tribes ? Beacuse i dont see any mutual facts... But this is not important./)
Keep good work .
Dusan,
First of all, I would move this discussion to another topic (e.g. Making bows arrows and staff / Thought on making a Hungarian hornbow?) but I was asked here so I answer under this topic.
Please believe me, we also study and collect available historical and archeologist sources focusing on not only the present Hungarian territory. We are not walking lidded eyes! We have several Hun, Avar and Hungarian bow finds from the historical and present Hungarian territory!
I would not really go into a battle of words (argument) who were the first in the Carpatian basin Slavian vs. Hun/Avar/Hungarian tribes ?cause it might have political influence ? and consequently I wanna avoid it! Additionally, if you do not know any fact or proves why we Hungarians (also the World) identify ourselves as Huns, this not means the absence of any evidence (we do have)!
We (you and me) have been educated by different schools and sources ? so no chance to convince each other ? forget it!
This forum has a limit to discus these things that?s why please be officially invited (also anybody) for the next bow making event (we conduct it in Hungary year by year) when we can discus these topics during the challenging horn bow making!
Any way let?s go back to bows, you are right we have quite intensive ?workshop? and archer life. However, the majority of HUN free time bowyers (hobbyist) does not advertise or public theirs products. Even we countrymen can not see so many new horn bows!
Now, there?s an initiation to collect all HUN horn bowyers (more than ten folks) to exchange our experience as well as to set common standards in order to be on the same platform. It takes time but the will does exist!
Finally, I'm a greenhorn bowyer please do not generalize even make equal my mistakes (commited several times) with HUN bow designs!
Regardless above mentioned, I?ll show new bows made by any HUN bowyer once I?ve got info.
Respectfully,
Peter
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