A source of uncut giant "watussi cattle horn"

Alam ed Din, Adnan · Post by **Alam ed Din, Adnan** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 2:51 am

I found this german source of horn, normal ones as well as African watussi cattle horn which is more than 70cm long. He normaly does not sell to bowyers so you'll have to explain to him for what you'll need the horn.
May be useful to build Magyar and Tatar bows..
I don't know about his english......

Contact: [email protected]
and also on ebay: http://search.ebay.de/_W0QQsassZrinderhorn

jiao · Post by **jiao** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:57 am

alamed din adnan

in the china also has horn like the url you has posted, it often is a cow head the big horn on it (it cost 1200rmb

), in some book's picture in china qinghai province and tibet province a lot horn( a small HILL) on the grassland

recently,a member of my forum in guangxi province said the water buffalo is garbage throw away,but has no long horn, i am guess it has good quality that the horn surface is smoothing

Alam ed Din, Adnan · Post by **Alam ed Din, Adnan** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:35 am

Jiao
how much is 1200rmb? Is it a lot for horn in China? How much costs Buffalo horn in China?(in US$) I will try this cow horn from Mr. Nielsen. He brings it from East Africa. Sometimes a Watussi single horn can measure more than one meter in lenght or more than that. It is the cow with the biggest horns in the world.
Tatar,Cuman and Hungarians used longhorn cattle horn for their bows, so why not give it a try, tropical or not tropical......we'll see if its durable and resilent or not.

Greetings & Salaam

jiao · Post by **jiao** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:41 am

the horn(1200rmb) of qinghai and tiber province same shape as this picture but not so long http://198.66.52.119/phpBB2/files/watus ... e__157.jpg

if 1 euro(europe)=100rmb, that 1200rmb=120euro, it is a white head bone and two horn

there are some cow in china still work on agriculture, the mountainous and so many small interval part area,some area can not used the machinery and it need oil

ps: i am try find the hill of horn but find some picture, that place we can do so best of shoot arrows and so beautiful xinjian province
http://www.huliwuya.com/xinjiang/index.htm
天苍苍野茫茫，风吹草低见牛羊
here near my home town(200km) and i yearn that place
http://www.huliwuya.com/xingan/index.htm

Alam ed Din, Adnan · Post by **Alam ed Din, Adnan** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:16 pm

very nice pictures.

redhawk · Post by **redhawk** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:28 am

hi,I?ve experienced with watussi-horns and I?ll will never use it anymore.It is twisted,it splinters very easy when working on it and it has not all the qualities of waterbuffalo-horn.

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:57 am

Bow made from 1 watussi steer horn. The style is somewhere between Hunza (Afghanistan tribe) and Chinese. This is the bow with the broken core repaired with 2 horn patches (the large black lashings). The repair is so secure that I decided to Birch bark the bow. The three horn slats are exposed, horn bridge, horn tips. Strange but pretty. -j-

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:59 am

siyah, bison rawhide loops.

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:03 am

The patch

Alam ed Din, Adnan · Post by **Alam ed Din, Adnan** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:06 pm

Jack

A very interesting bow design. Have you got material on original Hunza valley
bows? I am very interested in Mughal bow design and Persian designs.
But I have no material on any of the Afghan designs (there must be many since there are so many races & tribal groups there).

Salaam

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:20 pm

Alam; Jaap K. had a Hunza bow at one of the IHAF meetings which he allowed me to examine-touch. Another exists in the Grayson Collection which he allowed me to examine and photograph. A friend has taken pictures of a third in the Science museum in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. The Tashkent item includes arrows, quiver, armor and helmet and shield.

The bows were all long, rather straight, black, of minimal workmanship. The horn is in 2 and 3 long strips along the belly; the sinewing is crude. Multiple sinew lashings hold everything together. Siyahs are long, Chinesey. Probably, the pictures will not want to be posted here. -j-

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:09 am

Alam; Let me quickly add that I believe that there was a small article about Hunza bows in the Journal of the Society of Archer Antiquaries, JSAA, and something in Eggerton, Indian and Oriental Arms and Armour. -j-

Alam ed Din, Adnan · Post by **Alam ed Din, Adnan** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:41 pm

Thank you Jack

I will try to find it.

THE_DIRECTOR · Post by **THE_DIRECTOR** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:19 am

ALSALAMU ALAIKUM

To get a horn .......any horn !! you can say that you want it for carving .

A source of uncut giant "watussi cattle horn"

A source of uncut giant "watussi cattle horn"

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