bamboo and wood shafts's spine analisys

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Post by stiventiger » Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:29 am

jack farrell wrote:At Korean WTAF, more than 100 archers from around the world arrive for 5 days. You will find many new customers there.
I will come korean next year to show them my bamboo arrow shafts and long size horn strips etc and also want to take part in the game and see something new items for fun.
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Post by jchocz » Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:59 am

jack farrell wrote:I have seen the disappointment on many peoples faces when their arrows fall short at 80m and 100m and more. There you can see the difference clearly. And the Koreans shoot with ease to these distances and much more.

A Volkswagen arrow will be a grand disappointment at 100m. Parked next to the Volkswagen arrows are Mercedes shafts. But right now the Mercedes sticks are sent to the junk pile because what is being looked for is Volkswagen.
Jack loves Mercedes. Jack wants to buy a Mercedes (paid the price as a Mercedes), but the car dealer, Volkswagen ...

It is clear that no test persuade him to love Volkswagen.

The ability to shoot at 80 and 100 m is given more training options. Most archers not able to shoot at greater distances than 30 m.

A good archer will shoot a good arrow bamboo 80-100 meters - there is little possibility of intervention. This may confirm the archers of Romania. Shooting at 20 and 25m. The Naadam competition 2010 (Czech Republic) had a problem just shoot long distance event. They are good archers, but without the possibility of training for long distances.

This does not affect the bamboo.
Orda Khan wrote:Matching nodes may or may not affect the arrows, to me it's more aesthetic than anything else. My experience with bamboo arrows is that good grouping can be obtained regardless of node pattern.

I never mentioned science or physics, I said fixated with rules, not science.

The properties of the wood of two (so called) identical arrows was precisely my point. They are a natural material and will not be identical, so applying a rule will not change the outcome.
Yes, I agree. This corresponds to my findings. Natural materials are not homogeneous. Formulas and calculations are good, but useless. I repeat - it is good to make 20 to 30 arrows and select the same set of 12 pieces (good shooter).
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Post by stiventiger » Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:51 pm

yes,Natural materials are not homogeneous. Formulas and calculations are good,if somebady like shoot precise,he should shoot gun or carbon arrows,not tranditional wood or bamboo arrows,gun is most precise,
some people wanto buy merceders but want to pay the price as volkswagen,it is just the ideal dream not real case.
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Post by Orda Khan » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:42 pm

jchocz wrote:They are good archers, but without the possibility of training for long distances.
This is a very important point. Finding an area that can accomodate distances of 100m+ is hard enough. Safety considerations (overshoot, backdrop, the public) make it harder still and near impossible to practice long distance. The longest clear shot possible at my club would be somewhere around 80m and even then it is over uneven ground, on a hill, across a stream and into some birch trees :shock: :lol:
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Post by Jos?Dom » Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:58 pm

I use moderate heavy arrows for long distance target shooting. To me, 100yds plus target shooting (like Koreans do) is the most rewarding kind of practice. Too bad, it?s difficult to find good places around.
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Post by stiventiger » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:24 am

also here find out 20-30meter is extremly difficult,i always heake for this:no place to training,i must drive 1-2 hourse to find out place to shoot ,even travel 3000KM to shoot( i am little crazy),here too much people and all place are occupied.that is why tranditional archery develop so slowly:no place to play.so,my dream is establish 1 club during my life,but good club cost minimum 0.5-1 million$ to open a nice archey club. that is most heaviest business.
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