Bamboo arrow debate

stiventiger · Post by **stiventiger** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:35 am

if so well for bamboo arrows in market,now all paper money get less and less value,buy a lot real goods in stock is much better invest than put money in bank,here in china,all items's price is up 10-20% avarage,some items get 50-100% uping price,when bamboo arrow shafts is still in lower price,buy and keep them in stock,they can be keep 10 years no change quality.after 5-10 years,bamboo arrows'price will be up at least 50-100%

Orda Khan · Post by **Orda Khan** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:46 am

Beautiful arrows!
This thread is becoming a very good reference point .

Jos?Dom,
What length are your Japanese arrows?

Jos?Dom · Post by **Jos?Dom** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:04 pm

My draw length is 90cm, so the length of my arrows is 90cm plus the the thread wrap and arrowhead.

Daniel T. · Post by **Daniel T.** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:44 pm

Unfortunately I don't have the bow that goes with the arrows yet!

Is there a website with pictures of such arrowheads?

Daniel

Outlaw · Post by **Outlaw** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:07 pm

Daniel
that is why I asked Jose if all the heads were from Hector Cole.
He has (Hector Cole http://www.evado.co.uk/Hector%20Cole/Ar ... index.html ) in his website tanged war japanese arrow heads similar to those he got from Jaap Kopedrayer (yumi bows).

By the way, at 10 brit pounds a piece, but such a craftsman is worth that, for sure.

Jose, yours are tanged I guess...did you do anything special, such a tenon or anything to fit the tang with no gap???

Thanks Jose

Jos?Dom · Post by **Jos?Dom** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:08 pm

Please, contact Jaap Koppedrayer of YUMI for info and pictures of these heads. I guess I can give the e-mail address if anyone interested send me a PM.

I use a drill and then a small rounded file until it fits perfectly, it?s just trial and error. After that glue and serving for reinforcement. Epoxy glue on top to seal it.

stiventiger · Post by **stiventiger** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:06 pm

as if bamboo arrow shafts leave enough space to let each person to make their loved bamboo arrows.that is fun

J-Boon · Post by **J-Boon** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:18 am

As mention in my earlier post, I?m open to new things, and having read through all the post in this thread, decided that there?s only so much theory one can engage in arrive at a conclusion if something is good or not. The only way to find out how the item is like according is to obtain the item and test it for myself.

I personally like Tiger?s sales philosophy, where he is opening up economically priced arrow grade bamboo shafts to the market, so that more people have the option of trying them. That being said, I decided not to order shafts, but instead get Tiger to make me completed and finished customized arrows.

I ordered 50 arrows made to my specification, (Length, Weight, Fletching shape) Tiger was very accommodating and was honest in what can or cannot be done.

Myself, I am concerned primary with 3 points in my arrows. 1. Weight (Not less than 38g, but not more than 45g), 2. Total length (Point to nock), 3.Fletching shape. I personally am not concerned with spine, and I prioritize weight over spine. The price of each customized arrow (included EMS shipping) is the same price as wooden arrows made here in Australia using cedar.

Tiger, gave me a time frame of 2 weeks to get my custom arrows made and ready to ship. The order was done less than 14days, but I told Tiger to hold on posting it, until I am just about to return to Australia from abroad.

Tiger posted the parcel on 30 Dec 2010 from Tianjin China, and it arrived in Australia Melbourne on 2nd Jan 2011. It cleared custom on 3rd January, without any problem, Australian customs did not open parcel to check. The parcel was sent via EMS shipping which is traceable at waypoints during the delivery process.

Below are photos the arrow I received from Tiger today 4th Jan 2010.

Tiger made to order customized bamboo arrow review

The 50 arrows were all very well packed (see photo) and the parcel itself was compact. All fletchings and arrows arrived undamaged and in good condition. The bamboo shaft of these arrows itself are very beautiful, they are very smooth (felt like touching Japanese urushi tableware), very straight with a mirror-like glaze finish. The arrows are self nock.

Tiger bamboo arrows feel ?full? (lack of a better word) than the German cedar arrows that I own, which best as I can describe in comparison to the bamboo arrows, ?hollow?. Maybe I should say, Tiger arrows feel much more denser than the german cedar arrows.

While I did not specify to Tiger about node points on the bamboo arrow, all the 50 bamboo arrows have 3 nodes. The german cedar arrows I have are 38g and I find that this weight range work best for me. I don?t like using light arrows (my Easton Powerflight carbon arrows are 24g). Most of the arrows were 38g as requested, the rest not more than 43g.

Since, I do archery privately in my backyard (20meter, target in the close door garage *cough*), I can?t exactly afford a high trajectory. I have not used a bamboo arrow before, so, I?m more than curious to see how it felt according to my perspective. It definitely feels amazing. I don?t feel the wobble like my other arrows. I shot my german cedar arrows and Tigers bamboo arrow side by side so that I could compare the differences. I shot 10 shots 5 rounds for each arrow type. In all 5 rounds, all 10 of tiger bamboo arrow grouped very tightly. I don?t get that tight grouping with my cedar arrows.

I find that the bamboo arrow trajectory appears to be flatter /straighter. My accuracy has definitely increased. One unusual thing I realized is the bamboo arrows (although some are slightly heavier) seem to fly faster than my german cedar arrows. Why do I say this when I don?t have a chronograph? That?s because when I fire my cedar arrows, I can sort of, see the ?flight of the arrow? to the target. I can?t really see the flight path with Tiger bamboo shaft (same with my Easton Carbon Powerflight, which I can?t really catch the flight path), so I?m guessing the bamboo arrows are faster than the cedars.

I?m extremely pleased how the entire deal and end product turned out. My only gripe is Tiger made the binding lime green which, I thought didn?t match, but its ok, I will paint it over with some other color like black or white. Extremely please today.Maybe Tiger, will give me a discount the next time round for this review. *wink*

stiventiger · Post by **stiventiger** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:24 am

wonderful,i am enjoying your topic,of course i will give you better price next time:10% discount ,ok?

daryush · Post by **daryush** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:50 am

Thank you for the review!
May I ask, how much was it for the 50?

stiventiger · Post by **stiventiger** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:57 pm

Hi
pm to you already

jchocz · Post by **jchocz** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:06 pm

I promised details nocks ...

This is preparation for the Arrows (no feathers), 32 "and 33.5".

All arrows are made of bamboo, of course. Another decorating option.

Outlaw · Post by **Outlaw** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:35 pm

If I may ask... did you leave that space between the tail of the feather and the knock socket, because of balance issues?

jchocz · Post by **jchocz** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:02 pm

Outlaw wrote:If I may ask... did you leave that space between the tail of the feather and the knock socket, because of balance issues?

This wrapping is needed - increasing the resilience of arrows and nocks. No wrapping is a breach of an arrow. On balance it has minimal impact.

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:31 pm

Stiven; A very respectable product for J-Boon. I am sure that you can make something that the Koreans will buy. These are already better than the carbons they mostly sell with their plastic fletches. Come to WTAF and appeal directly to the customers. The sellers will be dragged in to your market.

If it were me, I would make up some with pheasant fletches. They have a special weight and length system which is easy to conform to. Huge market. Just an idea from a friend. Jack