Notice of my Retirement

jiao · Post by **jiao** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:55 pm

thomas said he pay less than $100/year for his website's hosting
two china bow forum can help atarn for free
also there are some free hosting

for the cheap has no any problem, sorry for my bad ideas,this is all i can do for this

Stephen Selby · Post by **Stephen Selby** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:02 am

Actually, I can carry on until the end of 2011, then someone else will need to take over. ATARN needs to be hosted on a good quality service which is not blocked in China.

Kviljo · Post by **Kviljo** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:22 pm

Good!

Aming for a transition into a Wiki sounds like a very good idea.

stiventiger · Post by **stiventiger** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:52 am

jkekoni wrote:BTW: I am also available for moving/setting this up, on other hosting location, if wanted.

as if many people already prepare enough for future.i should not worry any more

Stephen Selby · Post by **Stephen Selby** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:38 am

This is a summary of the work I do to run ATARN:

- Log on daily to ATARNet (unless work or remote travel makes it impossible to do so) and read all posts. I will edit or delete posts that are likely to cause offense (very few of these) or infringe copyright. I also edit posts that may contain words that will result in ATARN being blocked in Mainland China (also rare).

- Receive applications for ATARNet membership automatically referred by the system (two to three per week). I check each one to assess whether the applicant is likely to be a spammer and check the applicant's IP address (which is caught automatically by the system) to see whether it is from an anonymizer or has been blacklisted for spam. When in doubt, I refuse them. Each gets an email explaining the refusal and they can respond to object. Usually, I put back those with a reasonable explanation.

- Pay the hosting bills. Two separate sites at US$129.95 quarterly = US$1,039.60 per year.

- Maintain ATARN as a registered small business in Hong Kong, file tax returns and pay business profits tax (none in reality - we don't make a profit.)

- Gratefully receive donations from generous members. Maintain a business bank account for the purpose. Issue official receipts.

- Answer inquiries through email from Members or members of the public, the press and academics.

- Maintain ATARN's FaceBook page. (http://www.facebook.com/pages/ATARN-Asi ... 6012101443)

- Try and think up new things for ATARN to do. Meet ATARN members face-to-face if possible.

So taking over ATARN is not a matter of just paying the bills, nor of raising funds to help pay them. I shall be happy to keep up a lot of the work after my retirement; but I wonder if it's time for fresh ideas.

Boghadair · Post by **Boghadair** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:42 pm

how can I donate? Paypal?

Stephen Selby · Post by **Stephen Selby** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:08 am

Thank you for asking. I have an Atarn Paypal account using the email address [email protected] .

jiao · Post by **jiao** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:46 am

Stephen Selby wrote:This is a summary of the work I do to run ATARN:

- Log on daily to ATARNet (unless work or remote travel makes it impossible to do so) and read all posts. I will edit or delete posts that are likely to cause offense (very few of these) or infringe copyright. I also edit posts that may contain words that will result in ATARN being blocked in Mainland China (also rare).

- Receive applications for ATARNet membership automatically referred by the system (two to three per week). I check each one to assess whether the applicant is likely to be a spammer and check the applicant's IP address (which is caught automatically by the system) to see whether it is from an anonymizer or has been blacklisted for spam. When in doubt, I refuse them. Each gets an email explaining the refusal and they can respond to object. Usually, I put back those with a reasonable explanation.

- Pay the hosting bills. Two separate sites at US$129.95 quarterly = US$1,039.60 per year.

- Maintain ATARN as a registered small business in Hong Kong, file tax returns and pay business profits tax (none in reality - we don't make a profit.)

- Gratefully receive donations from generous members. Maintain a business bank account for the purpose. Issue official receipts.

- Answer inquiries through email from Members or members of the public, the press and academics.

- Maintain ATARN's FaceBook page. (http://www.facebook.com/pages/ATARN-Asi ... 6012101443)

- Try and think up new things for ATARN to do. Meet ATARN members face-to-face if possible.

So taking over ATARN is not a matter of just paying the bills, nor of raising funds to help pay them. I shall be happy to keep up a lot of the work after my retirement; but I wonder if it's time for fresh ideas.

i need you write these words as a chinese copy in new post on atarn also add the reason your retirement, the best you can has a bank card on in Mainland China, in china the wife control all money and most man has a bank in bureaux/arrows/computer/dog's home and he can use this for drink and eat when meeting friend

,so you need keep this as a secret dont say thank you to his family and not need official receipts send to his home

jkekoni · Post by **jkekoni** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:26 am

Stephen Selby wrote: - Log on daily to ATARNet ...

Quite the same what I do in perinnejousi. I do have to worry about any goverment oppinnions tough, and I have not minded about copied images, since no owner has ever complained.

Perinnejousi has however been bombed by 1000 copies of soviet constitution by an internationally known domestic bower mostly not known about medical condition that has an effect to his personality.

- Receive applications for ATARNet membership ...

I found that most spammers do not even want to post anything. they
can just registered their http;//www.buyconteirfietV1egraAndRollex.com
domain, this link is visible and thus gets search engine ranking regardless is they get permission to post. So I have skipped me having to click them open, and just delete bad accounts when i see them.

Also prechecking is not enough to keep a troll away, since the troll can just always get a new email and ip-address.

- Pay the hosting bills. Two separate sites at US$129.95 quarterly = US$1,039.60 per year.

I can get free hosting, since a friend of mine owns a hosting business related company. With this you may not need to own a business, but just run the rest of stuff on your name.

- Answer inquiries through email from Members or members of the public, the press and academics.

I speak veryvery little chinese and I am not historian, so most of this
would be better of by someone else. Can answer to board related stuff and general bow stuff up to a point tough.

stiventiger · Post by **stiventiger** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:32 am

Here boring goverment often do very boring things,i can't open:
http://atarn.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1569&start=15