World traditional Archery Festival 2011

jiao · Post by **jiao** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:28 am

how did Japanese Hungarians Bhutanese and Mongolians change or modify something?

what bow will be call the chinese bow form korean and which china dynasty will call chinese bow?

jkekoni · Post by **jkekoni** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:39 am

You mean:
1. Buy korean bow
2. Modify the handle
3. Call it ming bow ?

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:32 pm

Jiao; These were just some examples. Japanese had to learn to shoot faster and farther, Bhutanese to shoot closer, Hungarians have redeveloped their own archery culture, Mongolians had to bring arrows with points and others do better with an extra set of blunts.

The Korean rule should be a benefit to local bow makers.

Orda Khan · Post by **Orda Khan** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:18 pm

But it is restrictive, nonetheless. It is certainly not the all embracing feeling of previous occasions. My understanding of WTAF was a place where traditional archers could meet and enjoy traditional archery. This change is now saying archers should use equipment from their own country. There is no design mentioned admitted, but it's all very well to make a bow and take that but it's just not 'your bow', it's not what you would choose to do. If you currently use a Korean bow and you really enjoy it, would love to go to Korea to use it, you can't. This is sending out the wrong message in my opinion.

jiao · Post by **jiao** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:00 pm

hm.......i sure stephen can do more beter things in wtaf not only join compete , can wtaf and atarn can do right symbiosis? let archery up to country and nation for peacem and friend. not only compete(i take the compete is use my best thing compare your bad thing and enjoy the succeed or my bad compare your best never has full justice)

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:43 am

Guys; I have only been to two WTAF's in Korea and frankly am somewhat miffed when I see someone with a knock down recurve and carbons. This is just not the spirit of the competition.

To practice traditional archery, one has to go the extra mile. There is nothing simple in arriving with a quiver of wood or bamboo arrows with no plastic or factory parts. Same goes with the bow. I find my various Korean bows intoxicating but these are the inventions of the Koreans. Maybe they see a lack of traditionality in someone arriving and shooting with Korean equipment at an international event.

No, everyone cannot make their own equipment but they can find a traditional source and follow that lead. This will lead to the real growth of traditional archery and not just Korean traditional archery.

In all honesty the Koreans are too polite to keep anyone from shooting with anything short of a compound. But, Hey Guys, pour your hearts into something traditional and come and show it off!

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:43 am

Dear Sir,

WTAFOC opened our website. http://wtafoc.or.kr
Please visit the site and we will upload many useful data for WTAF.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask us.

Best regards.

WTAFOC

OK, the site is up and working. Try out your Korean. -j-

Justin Ma · Post by **Justin Ma** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:06 am

I'm curious to see a sample 6-day agenda to get an idea of what percentage is occupied by the competition. What if people attended but didn't necessarily compete? Would there be unstructured sessions for folks to shoot (any bow they want) and socialize?

Or even better, set up booths or dedicated hands-on seminars for people to try out new/unfamiliar styles of archery and equipment (if you hadn't already had the privilege, wouldn't this be a great opportunity to try shooting a Japanese yumi, Turkish bow, Bhutanese bow, etc, etc, etc)? Personally, I think the hands-on seminars would go a long way to promoting diversity and the exchange of ideas rather than watching people compete.

JJ · Post by JJ » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:21 pm

Jack,

fully agreeing with you. Guess the only thing that annoyed the Koreans really was that more and more people turned to the unexpensive Hwarang bows that are on sale on the festivals and decided to shoot with them because they realized that they were better than their bows brought from home

That way the "international" flair of the competition was watered down a little. Nobody will say anything to a western participant that shoots with a recurve hunting bow and carbon arrows, for example..., well it is their tradition

The Korean festival is currently turned down by many people, but I have to say that it is a great possibility to meet other archers from around the world that display a wealth of ethnic archery styles. I learned a lot and met wonderful people. I dug into hornbowmaking again because of the hornbow archers and makers I saw there, some of them being Atarn members.

JJ

M??a · Post by **M??a** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:32 pm

Halo.
I?m from midle Europe and I visited 2009 WTAF.

I have a hight respect to Jurgen(JJ) and all others which are trying to find lost art of hornbowmaking but probably I cannot full underestand idea of WTAF. It isn?t competition and I thank that it is social purpose to meet other traditional archers from all the World.

On 2009 I could to see Korean archers with hornbows and with plastic replicas of Koren bow with painted marks for aiming (itś strictly prohibited in all systems I know)

there was possible to see english longbows, some well made hornbows, mongolian bows and a lot of laminated replicas of historical bows. Some archers were used historical or traditional arrows, some wooden arrows from modern comercial components some carbon arrows...
Some of them were in traditional or historical costumes, some in sport, but uniform dresses with club or national identification.

There wasn?t any basic idea in archery, but it was nice opportunity to speak with interesting peoples.

In my country isn?t archery from 13 century, but there was possible to find other nations with bow.
Now we are shooting from all types of bows.
I?m shooting from Turkish bow using traditional technique and arrows, but I know number of excelent archers with Korean bow and mediterran release, with ancient Egyptian bow, many types of longbows, middle Asia types..... any of them isńt typical Czech bow, but nobody knows what is typical Czech bow.
We are shooting on world historical targets, some our disciplines, in FITA and EAA (middle Europe archery organization) 3D and target shooting, horsearchery (Rare).......

Maybe WTAF is parades in historical costumes with brassmusic now. But for Czech archers is impossible to take a part in accordance with this rules.
We can to camouflage us as mediaval archers with equipment with problematical historical value, or to shoot with contemporary traditional equipment (but in contemporary dress) as is defined in sport rules (traditional Reflex bow, traditional longbow, instinctive bow etc.) Or we can shoot with traditional bow and equipment which is normal for us during Year , but it is prohibited.

All serious archers knows well, that it is imposible to compete with other bow than your own. Archery festival with this rules has probably different idea than archery

But to make a rules is a basic privilege of all organizators and for us is neccessary to respect it

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:19 pm

Dear Sir,

Expired date for abstract of international academic seminar and provisional registration is April 40th.

If you want to join to present seminar or participate in the 5th WTAF, please submit the documents.

Best regards.

WTAFOC

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Wed May 04, 2011 12:21 pm

Dear Sir,

We had some problems as to website.
Now it is working properly.
We will update the news and other information in website.
If you have any questions, please contact us.

www.wtafoc.or.kr

mikekeswick · Post by **mikekeswick** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:39 am

I'm am thinking about going to this. What format do the competions take? Can anybody enter? I have no idea what to expect!

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:44 pm

Appropriateness of WTAF

Other international competition with each country is keen and commercial.
In contrast, WTAF represent the history and culture of all over the world and it contribute to world peace through the archery.
Purpose of meeting
1. To be designated as a UNESCO and join the International Sports Federation, extend the world traditional archery with 50 countries for world traditional culture as brand.
2. To achieve, it is needed to organize the nation community of world traditional archery.
3. It is more effective to organize around WTAFOC held the WTAF than to make new organization. Based on WTAFOC, make the executive committee as subordinate organization.

Ways:
Divide 4 continents (Asia, Europe, Africa, North and South America), Choose 1 representative / 2 vise representative from each continent as member of executive committee.
Division:
- Asia: Nepal, Taiwan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Mongolia, Japan, China, Tibet, Korea ( Austria, New Zealand)
- Europe: Germany, Rumania, Switzerland, Spain, Slovakia, England, Italy, Turkey, Poland, France, Hungary.
- Africa: Tanzania
- North and South America: U.S.A. Canada, Dominica, Mexico, Bolivia, Uruguay, Peru

Meeting agenda
1. Deliberation for establishment of executive committee
2. Management and review regulations for WTAF
3. Ways of extension the countries to be designated as a UNESCO World Heritage site.
4. Establish the authority and obligation of executive committee
5. Way of meeting for executive committee (once a year during WTAF)

jack farrell · Post by **jack farrell** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:41 am

Qualification and way of representative election

[Qualification]
1. Representative of archery association and federation which is managed well.
2. Representative who keep their own tradition
3. Who has profound knowledge of traditional archery
4. Professional person with volunteer work and honor
5. Who does not have the prison record

[Way]
1. Elect after finish the orientation
2. Representative / vice representative will be registered as candidate from each country.
3. Representative / vice representative is elected within candidates
4. If it is hard to elect, it will be decided after discuss among leader of each country
5. If it is hard to discuss, representative will be elected by vote and vice representative will be elected by agreement of leader of each country
6. Vice representative cannot be elected from same country with representative