New article about Puta Shooting
- temren
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New article about Puta Shooting
Hi Everybody,
We recently translated a Turkish article into English and published it on our website:
http://www.tirendaz.com/en/?page_id=483
I hope you enjoy reading it.
Adnan...
We recently translated a Turkish article into English and published it on our website:
http://www.tirendaz.com/en/?page_id=483
I hope you enjoy reading it.
Adnan...
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Zarasp
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thanx for the article,
btw i didnt see the hand Puta picture,
a few days ago i saw this image & thought , this a possibly the best target i have seen for archery so i saved the picture for future reference. its from facebook page of Hilmi Aric.
btw i didnt see the hand Puta picture,
a few days ago i saw this image & thought , this a possibly the best target i have seen for archery so i saved the picture for future reference. its from facebook page of Hilmi Aric.
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- temren
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The hand held puta picture is there. Try refreshing the page. Alternatively you may have a look here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/54045661@N ... 6854399590
http://www.flickr.com/photos/54045661@N ... 6854399590
- Bede
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- temren
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Thanks Bede. It was written by Akin Ogretici, one of our newer members. We have shot at long distances in competitions and in training with moderate success, although nowhere near the old distances. Finding a spot to shoot such distances safely around Istanbul is nearly impossible. We also do not want to lower the morale of our newer team members as missing the target is not fun at all, so we prefer to do stump shooting when go out (as part of training). Hopefully we' ll get to train as experienced archers soon. We intend to get consistent on shorter distances first, then gradually reach the old distances.
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M??a
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we are shooting "pear" shape Puta target in size cca 80x 100cm on distances 70-80m in Czech Republic and normal efectivity is about 50%. The best result had Jurij Z?ma last year 8 hits for 10 arrows. (with traditional bow and wooden arrow) . On longer distance the best archers have good vertical line but we have problem with exact elevation.
In Czech we have discipline retread on target cca 60x 180 cm (human body) and the best result is hit on 105m with barebow. For me is normal 80-95m. Longer distance is very problematic for wooden arrow and there is impossible to speak about accuracy. It is only shooting to target area. For distance over 160m I havent control in elevation (I don?t see hit out of target).
If shootin puta on distances 165-250 m wasn?t simmilar as English clout (target is only mark for aiming) , old archers have my full respect. I cannot make as exact arrow from wood.
At last, but not at least, 250m is full range for me with target arrow (70 lb turkish bow)
Old Turkish archers were something out of anything I know. Masters of masters. I never met anybody with this accuracy in my life with traditional bow. I?m envy them
In Czech we have discipline retread on target cca 60x 180 cm (human body) and the best result is hit on 105m with barebow. For me is normal 80-95m. Longer distance is very problematic for wooden arrow and there is impossible to speak about accuracy. It is only shooting to target area. For distance over 160m I havent control in elevation (I don?t see hit out of target).
If shootin puta on distances 165-250 m wasn?t simmilar as English clout (target is only mark for aiming) , old archers have my full respect. I cannot make as exact arrow from wood.
At last, but not at least, 250m is full range for me with target arrow (70 lb turkish bow)
Old Turkish archers were something out of anything I know. Masters of masters. I never met anybody with this accuracy in my life with traditional bow. I?m envy them
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Zarasp
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yes the old masters...
there are some things, hard to believe, but cannot be lies either because there is evidence for it.
less than a century ago they played a game in which an archer shot an arrow to a marked place on a hill top and a few others tried to bring it, riding uphill & downhill as fast as they could for the prize, i have seen these marks & even now, it is hard for me to imagine how can someone shoot that far into a 2-3m circle, on top a steep hill...
there are some things, hard to believe, but cannot be lies either because there is evidence for it.
less than a century ago they played a game in which an archer shot an arrow to a marked place on a hill top and a few others tried to bring it, riding uphill & downhill as fast as they could for the prize, i have seen these marks & even now, it is hard for me to imagine how can someone shoot that far into a 2-3m circle, on top a steep hill...
- Bede
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It is amazing what you can train yourself to do without distractions and a professional coach. Those of us who are trying to reconstruct the shooting practices of the past are working hard, but under several difficulties.
I found I can teach people to shoot much faster than I learned myself and often they shoot much better than I do after practising for a time. The advantages of a proper teacher are not just what you can be told to do, but what an experienced person sees. The coach knows what to look for in a way that an inexperienced helper does not.
With time an practice, I think we will have archers who can match the old distances and accuracy.
I found I can teach people to shoot much faster than I learned myself and often they shoot much better than I do after practising for a time. The advantages of a proper teacher are not just what you can be told to do, but what an experienced person sees. The coach knows what to look for in a way that an inexperienced helper does not.
With time an practice, I think we will have archers who can match the old distances and accuracy.
Bede
