My Polish-Turkish Quiver

[Ron Jachim]

Well, I made a Polish-Turkish style quiver


I made most of the brass pieces, but the owner added the strip at the bottom and some of the little brass bits. The owner is an armourer and I'll have him make my brass in the future. Making brass bits is harder than I thought
Oh, I made the arrows too.

It is modelled after this one:


Now, I have a question. It is not lined, so the rivits on the inside of the quiver may scratch the arrows. How was the lining handled back then? I'm thinking that an extra piece of thin leather could be stitched in during assembly, or that some thick cloth could be stiched in or glued on. Any suggestions?

Next, I plan to make the matching bow case and then I hope to make one based on Andrzej Abratowski's pattern of the 17th century quiver from Czartoryski Museum in Krakow which can be found here http://www.atarn.org/islamic/patterns/k ... attern.jpg

[jack farrell]

Ron; Nice work. do you have a close-up of an arrow? What is the nock made of.

In the origional, I would expect that some of the metal plates were gold. At least one appears recycled from another piece, maybe all. The corner plate near the upper right is not quite a fit. A friend brought me a pic of a Tatar quiver from the Kremlin which almost certainly had recycled gold plates. -j-

[Ron Jachim]

Jack, Thanks.

The nocks have a piece of walnut about an 7/8" long & a bit less than 1/8" thick. I don't have a close up of them, but I'll try to get one. They are just sort of servicable traditional nocks, nothing special.

I made some nocks where the shaft fits into the nock, but I couldn't figure out how to make the angled hole in the wood (like on a plastic nock). The parallel peg & socket were too weak.

I agree about the recycled metal fittings. When looking closely at quivers and bow cases, as well as kalkans (shields) you can often detect pieces that don't quite match the other.

[Stephen Selby]

Well, I made a Polish-Turkish style quiver
It is not lined, so the rivets on the inside of the quiver may scratch the arrows. How was the lining handled back then?

I think that the way Jack did it when he made me a Turkish style quiver was right: it's just a simple, felt sock which can be pushed inside using a blunt stick (e.g. a wooden 30cm ruler). That will hold the arrows firmly in place without rattling. But the arrows can only have simple, bullet points. Hunting arrows or whatever can't be held like that.

S.

[jonR]

I used a piece of sheep skin that I sheared down to about 1/4 of wool .
Then did as others did. Made a sock like case ,turned it wool side in and slid it into the quiver. I"ve been thinking of doing the same with a bow holder.
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[Bede]

Bowcases are usually lined with cloth. The Qing one I have is lined with dark blue cotton cloth. Strips of thin leather are folded over the edges of the openings to cover and protect the lining. Turkish quivers often had linings too.

When I first made mine, I put a strip of sheepskin, with the wool on, in the mouth to stop the arrows rattling. Judging from the way Turkish quivers have folded leather edgings I think it more likely they too orginally had cloth linings. However, I have noticed some quivers with glued-in leather linings. Some of the heavily appliqued or embroidered quivers were probably made on thin leather that was stitched and glued to a base which formed the inside of the quiver.

The problem with sheepskin is that unless you clean your arrows before you put them back in the quiver, it collects the blood and the dirt. Woven cloth and felt ar not quite so bad.

If your quiver is not embroidered or does not have metal fittings that are rivetted, you can get away with no lining at all. Bow cases should be lined to protect the finish of your bow.

[jonR]

Got to agree with Bede.
Unless you can get hold of some pro taned hiddes,usually from buckskinners mail order Co's.
You will never totalyy get rid of the "sheep" smell and you need to wipe
your arrows down because of the transfeer of lanolin to them.
Nice thing about tanedSS is you can throw it in the washing machine
on cold and it comes out almost good as new.
I think I will go with cloth for the bow case!!!
Bede, heard anything about Ft Dodge in 06?
jonR

[Ron Jachim]

I just finished and sent off the matching bowcase!



and here's a link to a shot of the set together:

http://www.polishhussarsupply.com/siteb ... 99x404.jpg

Like the quiver, it has brass stamped with designs and decorated with faux stones.

[sosohi]

What a nice bowcase!

Someday, I will introduce Korean military bowcase and quiver. ^^;

[Eleazar]

Many bless you! Look very nice.