Japanese quivers???

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Derek Hobart
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Japanese quivers???

Post by Derek Hobart » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:31 am

I'm interested in building a Japanese-style quiver. I've searched libraries and the web and come up empty. Does anyone have pictures or patterns of Japanese quivers, and what they are made of?

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Post by Stephen Selby » Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:17 am

This quiver dates from about 1790. Wood, laquered leather, brass fittings.
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Post by Bede » Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:31 am

Stephen,
That looks like a quiver for travelling, similar to the ones that went with the travelling sets with a pair of bows and either a closed Japanese quiver or one like yours.

I have some pictures from a wood-block printed book with various quivers. I do not think there are any copyright restrictions. The book was traditionally bound and printed in the 18th or 19th century.
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Post by Derek Hobart » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:47 pm

Thanks for the pics. This gives me a good start. :)
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Post by Stephen Selby » Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:31 am

[quote="Bede"]Stephen,
That looks like a quiver for travelling, similar to the ones that went with the travelling sets with a pair of bows and either a closed Japanese quiver or one like yours.
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Not sure whether that's right, Bede. The arrows are full-sized war/hunting arrows. Wouldn't they be smaller if it was a carriage set? Also, the arrows and quiver come together with a red, laquered yumi (not shown here becasue I can't afford to transport it from Londin :? .

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Post by Bede » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:43 am

Sorry Stephen,
I expressed myself badly. What I was talking about was the full sized bows and quivers that were carried in procession by the retainers of a daimyo. Usually there is some sort of stand too. I saw one in private hands in Australia that originally held an utsubo quiver and two full sized bows. There is an illustration in the Grey Goose Wing of one with a quiver similar to your picture.

The rimankyu bows and bow cases are another thing altogether. They were meant to be used in confined spaces and are quite small as you suggested.
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Post by Stephen Selby » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:41 am

Agreed: this comes from a set that was mainly for ceremonial purposes.
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Post by jonR » Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:01 am

Bede
When you mentioned the illustration in The Grey Goose Wing, was that the one on page 221.
Had another ? about something in the same book but will start a new post so as not to hijack this one.
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Post by Bede » Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:00 pm

Jon,
I was talking about the the one on page 237. The drawing on page 221 is of a standard ebira redrawn like Stephen's quiver. There are many surviving ebira quivers and many old paintings of them. There was one in Kurosawa's movie, the Gate of Rashamon.
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Post by jonR » Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:43 am

Bede
Thanks for the page # and info.
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