Mongolian thumb release off the "Wrong" side?

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Post by ryddragyn » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:39 pm

No, sorry should have been clearer. Mechanical on right is mirror image of mechanical on left and thumb on left. Clean and straight but it flies to the side. If you have ever shot a compound with a grossly misadjusted rest, it's the same principle.
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Post by pcoutin » Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:07 am

So if one has a reaally clean thumb release, then it should work just as well on the right as on the left?
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Post by ryddragyn » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:11 am

At least in terms of really clean arrow flight, yes. I would think that in either case a really stiff arrow should help.
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Post by pcoutin » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:22 am

I tried shooting with thumb draw on the left with an olympic bow a few days ago. The arrow goes wayy to the left. What should I do to avoid this from happening? Do you have to compensate?

I think shooting off the left side with thumb draw will help me get a clean release ultimately.
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Post by ryddragyn » Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:02 pm

Most Olympic setups are not actually "center shot", despite being commonly described as such. Look at the position of the rest/plunger. At brace, the usual practice is to have it 1/8" left of center, to compensate for the deflection of the fingers.

So that in of itself certainly doesn't help when trying to shoot "straight" with thumb draw. I'd move the rest to a true center, or even past center.

Even then you'll likely still have some leftward flight. The Mongols appear to just be compensating by aiming to the right. I'd do the same. But yes, I do see this as possibly a good exercise for cleaning up one's release technique. I've only ever done it with a "63" or a pillion release, I wonder if a cylindrical ring would improve things.

Obviously there's a reason why unorthodox combinations were probably rare, if not downright non existent, for most of human history. The orthodox combos are very robust.
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Post by pcoutin » Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:53 am

Can you describe the 63 and pillion releases? Are they just locks, maybe as described in Swoboda's book, or special thumb rings? I think I'll stick with a square lock..
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Post by ryddragyn » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:12 am

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