Slings - archery?
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Slings - archery?
I don't know what the ATARN position on slings is, but I am interested in the woven slings used in Tibet. I don't know if you'd count them as "archery" equipment - they don't use a bow, and they don't shoot arrows. But they are very venerable missile weapons which are used in Asia and are actually very powerful. I was just curious as to whether anyone might have any information whatsoever regarding the use of slings in Asia.
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Sure, let's discuss slings.
I haven't come a cross the Tibetan ones. I trawled this on Google:
http://www.friendsoftibet.org/main/rangzenband.html
I haven't come a cross the Tibetan ones. I trawled this on Google:
http://www.friendsoftibet.org/main/rangzenband.html
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The only photographs I've come across of Tibetan slings show slings woven in the same style as the rangzen band, that is to say, black and white, yak and sheep wool, with fairly large woven pockets. I am unsure as to whether the pockets on the slings are split or whole, but I believe they are whole pockets. They have several loops woven into them, and they often have a "cracker" tied to the end of the release cord - that is, a knotted cord with a deliberately frayed end, so it cracks like a whip, this being for herding yak and sheep. A sling, any sling, can be very powerful, quite easily. In the hands of a novice, a stone can go over 200 feet with ease, but the main problem is the steep learning curve. It is difficult to equip an army of slingers who need training, who haven't used the sling since they were young, but overall, the sling can be a useful weapon, because it is so portable. You can just fit it right into your pocket and pick ammunition from the ground. It's silent, and very long range - the longest distance shot on record is 477 metres.
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I handled a Tibetan sling once at an antique fair. It had a woven rectangular pouch with a cord coming from each short side. One ended in a loop and the other with a knot with a frayed piece of cord. Due to the length and their lightness, I don't think you could crack them like a whip, but I didn't try it so I could be wrong.
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Here's a reference, if you can find it:
The Tibet Journal, Autumn 2000 Vol. XXV No. 3. "The Sling and the Inflated Skin Boat in Tibet," Siegbert Hummel Trans. G. Vogliotti, p. 14
Publisher information at http://www.lib.virginia.edu/area-studie ... bjsub.html
The Tibet Journal, Autumn 2000 Vol. XXV No. 3. "The Sling and the Inflated Skin Boat in Tibet," Siegbert Hummel Trans. G. Vogliotti, p. 14
Publisher information at http://www.lib.virginia.edu/area-studie ... bjsub.html
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Have you tried http://slinging.org ?
Also, there are two pictures of tibetan sling in use at this site:
http://www.skidmore.edu/academics/asian ... omads.html
Also, there are two pictures of tibetan sling in use at this site:
http://www.skidmore.edu/academics/asian ... omads.html
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photos of archers as well
have you noticed this photo?


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Several years ago I traced the origin of the film used in the video. I think it was taken by Lowell Thomas in the late 1930s or early 1940s. It was in colour and showed three horsemen shooting at two consecutive targets. They shot at the first one with their guns and, after slinging them over their shoulders, took out their bows and shot at the next target.
The video was about Tibet and narrated by Harrer, the mountaineer.
A section on standing archery was also included using a Qing, cloth, hanging target with a suspended disk. The bows looked Chinese and were longer than the horse archers' equipment. The draw was a variation of the Mediterranean and the arrows looked like whistling arrows.
The video was about Tibet and narrated by Harrer, the mountaineer.
A section on standing archery was also included using a Qing, cloth, hanging target with a suspended disk. The bows looked Chinese and were longer than the horse archers' equipment. The draw was a variation of the Mediterranean and the arrows looked like whistling arrows.
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Photo of tibetan archer...
I have a book of H.Harrer that shows related photo's.According to what my book said, those medieval uniforms & some of the weapons where taken from the corpses of a muslim army that tried to invade Tibet century's ago, they froze to death in a snow storm on their way to Lhasa.Once in a year this
artefacts where taken out in a parade to remember that event......
http://www.skidmore.edu/academics/asian ... mArmy.html
This page has some pics of this muslim army(?)armour (horseback) plus some pics of tibetan trad. armour...
artefacts where taken out in a parade to remember that event......
http://www.skidmore.edu/academics/asian ... mArmy.html
This page has some pics of this muslim army(?)armour (horseback) plus some pics of tibetan trad. armour...
Alam
