first appearance f our traditional Turkish archery team...

Murat ?zveri · Post by **Murat ?zveri** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:26 pm

Dear members of atarn,

As you might know, there has been a systematic attempt of a limited number of people in Turkey to give the Turkish traditional archery a new life. The "chain of tradition" was broken ca. 100 years ago and there have been no trad. archers or bowyers until we give re-birth to these forgotten arts. We have organised seminars, published articles and even a book to make the new generation gain knowledge about this amazing part of our culture.

A recent event was held last weekend. It was the first public appearence of the first traditional archery team. The first traditional Turkish archery team made a show consisting of all the disciplines of Ottoman archery like piercing hard objects, flight shooting, puta (target) shooting. We also demonstrated some war-related modifications like shooting in kneeling position both forward and backward. The team members shot moving targets and hand-held putas too which looked quite weird and unbelievable to olympic archers and many audiences. The team members in Seldjuk and Ottoman costumes played short scenes about flight shooting and martial use of bow n arrow, and demonstrated how it has been done centuries ago.

The media was there as well. One of the TV channels even made live transmission. I think it has been a good opportunity to reach people and express the importance of keeping this part of our history and culture alive.

In the show we used synthetic Grozer replicas (made in Hungary) and shot with thumbring of course. One year ago, I was the only one who was trying to learn and master the use the thumbring. So I can say I'm very happy and proud of being able to make and use thumbrings with great success. There are 8 members of this team and there is agrowing number of enthusiasts.

I appreciate all the help of atarn members, especially of Bede Dwyer, Adam Karpowicz and my Hungarian friends, Dr. Jen? Major, Dr. Gabor Sz?ll?ssy. I believe that this will be the first step of a developing movement in my country.

Best regards.

Murat ?zveri

Thomas Duvernay · Post by **Thomas Duvernay** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:42 pm

Congratulations! That is very great news.

Thomas

zivana · Post by **zivana** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:02 pm

Here are some photos from the event Sadabad Senlikleri!

zivana · Post by **zivana** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:32 pm

A photo with 'siper'

Stephen Selby · Post by **Stephen Selby** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:49 am

A recent event was held last weekend. It was the first public appearence of the first traditional archery team.

Warmest congratulations to friends in Turkey for this breakthrough event!

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:19 am

Murat,
Looks great. A wonderful day for Turkish archery!

sbartels · Post by **sbartels** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:11 pm

This must have been a fantastic event and a great step in the direction of tra. archery revival. The costumes also look great - can you say something about them?
Grozer's painted Turkish bows surely are fantastic to look at.
I wish you even more success in the future!

zivana · Post by **zivana** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:11 pm

In the picture G?steri (2) _ k???k.JPG standing from left to right; 1) Yagmur "tamburi" Emiroglu, 2) Murat K?peli, 3) Murat ?zveri, 4) Cemal H?nal, 5) Yilmaz Cebecioglu, 6) M?min Seren. Sitting, from left to right; 7) Mustafa Serdar Tek?e, 8 ) Ekrem Seren, 9) S?kr? Mergen.

Costumes with the same direction; standing; 1) regular Ottoman daily, 2) regular Ottoman daily, 3) janissary, 4) Not a costume (His own chain armor and shalvar), 5) regular Ottoman daily, 6) Seljuk Warrior. Sitting; 7) Sipahi (Cavalry costume), 8 ) Sipahi again, 9) Today's daily clothes!

Ekrem

Stephen Selby · Post by **Stephen Selby** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:16 am

I am looking forward to meeting all these friends in Istanbul or Izmir between 7-13 July.

S.

Romain · Post by **Romain** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:01 am

Beautiful show !

redhawk · Post by **redhawk** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:15 am

Murat, really great. Go on like that, keeping this spirit alive!!!!!

Michael

Tamr The Nomad · Post by **Tamr The Nomad** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:31 am

I have been hoping to revive traditional archery among Tatars mainly Siberian-Tatars. Hard though as equipment is very expensive and my in-laws might rather involve themselves in more modern activities.

I imagine Siberian Tatar bows of the 1200's to the 1500's would resemble Turkish bows. Am I right?

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:22 am

Modern Siberian bows were close to Buriat bows in design. When you write Siberian Tatar, do you mean White Horde or Northern Oirat?

Tamr The Nomad · Post by **Tamr The Nomad** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:40 pm

I'm refering to the Tatars of the Siberian Khanate of which Kuchum was the last Khan. They were the last of the Mongol / Tatars to pose any threat to the Slavic Russians.

They lived in what is now Tobolsk near the Irtysh River. I have had a heck of a time finding pictures of their weaponry. My sister in law sent us pictures of their clothing from a museum in Tobolsk and it looked very Ottoman so I assumed that their weapons would be some combination of Mongol, Turkish and Crimean.

Tamr

Tamr The Nomad · Post by **Tamr The Nomad** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:44 pm

I'm refering to the Tatars of the Siberian Khanate of which Kuchum was the last Khan. They were the last of the Mongol / Tatars to pose any threat to the Slavic Russians.

They lived in what is now Tobolsk near the Irtysh River. I have had a heck of a time finding pictures of their weaponry. My sister in law sent us pictures of their clothing from a museum in Tobolsk and it looked very Ottoman so I assumed that their weapons would be some combination of Mongol, Turkish and Crimean.

Tamr

first appearance f our traditional Turkish archery team...

first appearance f our traditional Turkish archery team...

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Siper

Congratulations

Costumes

Traditioal turkish archery team

Revival

Kuchum

Kuchum