A beautiful bow, what do you think ?

Redbow · Post by **Redbow** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:46 pm

Some pictures of this beautiful bow ...
It comes from a private collection.
It is 41 " long, 14mm thick in the limbs.
I have measured the width and thickness every 5 cm.
It is perfectly symmetrical and with accurate dimensions.
Looking at the ears it seems this bow has not been used much if at all.
(The paint at the nock string at the ears is still there like new)
I would like to know how old it can be and what kind of bow it is ?
I would like to know if this shape of the ears is a particular feature that would characterise its time and place of manufacture ?
What about its decoration ?
Thanks for your comments.

Redbow · Post by **Redbow** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:12 pm

more details of the ears

jiao · Post by **jiao** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:53 am

beautiful bow,the pattern on bow very same as chinese pattern name 缠枝纹（many branches and leaves interleaving)

http://blog.hjenglish.com/qqyc/articles/332054.html

http://hi.baidu.com/pukichen/blog/item/ ... 0c420.html

Stephen Selby · Post by **Stephen Selby** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:01 am

Jiao, these porcelain pieces from the Ming Dynasty were probably influenced by Turkish taste, because so much Ming porcelain we made for export to Turkey. (Or were the Turks influenced by Chinese taste?)

The designs were also popular from the Tang dynasty, when there was also a lot of Turkish-Chinese contact.

Adam Karpowicz · Post by **Adam Karpowicz** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:15 am

Nice specimen. I would think it is a tirkesh (war) bow, leather covered. 17th c. sounds about right. The shape of tips is typical and the most common among Ottoman bows.

Adam

jiao · Post by **jiao** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:17 am

Stephen Selby wrote:Jiao, these porcelain pieces from the Ming Dynasty were probably influenced by Turkish taste, because so much Ming porcelain we made for export to Turkey. (Or were the Turks influenced by Chinese taste?)

The designs were also popular from the Tang dynasty, when there was also a lot of Turkish-Chinese contact.

the influenced is each others, in history of ming Dynasty , Turkish send the Mauser as tribute to ming Dynasty（before year １５24)(鲁密是古代西域的一个小国，位于今小亚细亚地区。据《明史?鲁密传》记载，嘉靖三年（1524年），鲁密国派遣使者，进贡狮子和犀牛时，随同带来鲁密铳。到1598年兵器专家赵士祯根据鲁密铳的构造进行了改进，仿制成一种新型鸟枪??鲁密鸟铳。全枪重8斤，长5～7尺，装药4钱，铅子重3钱。?龙头?和 ?规?等部件都安装在铳床内，并在机规上设有弹簧。拨动机规，龙头即落入火门。火燃之后，手指松开，龙头便自动昂起。铳床尾部装有钢刃，敌人逼近时，还可以掉转枪头，来作斩马刀用。鲁密鸟铳射程远，威力大，在结构上优于日本式鸟枪。故《武备忘》评说：?鸟铳：唯鲁密铳最远最毒)

i am guess in year before or later 1524, the bows lost his important status in war days by days. awane

who know more clue(thread, example of history) how the chinese and tukish influenced each others(about hornbow and archery), hehe so far a way the china between turkish

Redbow · Post by **Redbow** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:43 pm

Thank you Adam !
Here is the width(mm) fonction of the length (cm) and the thickness (mm)fonction of the length (cm).
Length : 0 cm is the center of the bow.
The correlation and comparison of the two curves is interesting and shows the accuracy of the work.

Adam Karpowicz · Post by **Adam Karpowicz** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:11 pm

A well made and powerful bow. I think it may be around 130-140lb @ 28".

Adam