Korean Horn Bow Speed

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Korean Horn Bow Speed

Post by Sharparrows » Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:50 pm

Have any of you guys shooting a Korean horn bow with a full circle of reflex ever chronoed its speed? What was the poundage, draw length and weight of the arrow?
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Post by Rapsod » Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:24 am

I bet that korean bows are faster than turkish (same arrow, bows with equal strength at equal draw length). Thay are smaller and lighter than turkish bows.
Did anybody ever posted a diagram of draw weight of corean bow?
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Post by redhawk » Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:31 am

hi, look at www.koreanarchery.org and you will find arrowspeed for modern korean bows. I?ve never found any facts about arrowspeed of traditional korean hornbows. Traditionally made turkish hornbows are very fast, for example 65lbs, 210fps, 24grams arrow.
The korean hornbow seems to be a lighter-weighted bow than a turkish hornbow, but that does not mean that the korean bow is faster. We have to look at such bows as a whole.
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Post by jiao » Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:52 am

:D :D :D
hai, i think don't compare which hornbow are best, form quondam times these differ things:tradition, strategy,the money and productivity of country, the material and a lot of them

for a example, there are many method to cook eggs, then we are discuss which method are best? or compare egg and meat which are best?

if the korean bow same as chinese ming dynasty hornbow,there strategy is build MORE hight greet wall, the archer shooting arrows on it then the distance of shoot will add more, the low draw weight is good for this job,is i right?
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Post by Sharparrows » Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:57 pm

Thanks for the replies. I wanted to know if this kind of bow would qualify as the 200 fps bow that was being discussed on paleoplanet. It must shoot 200fps shooting 10gr\pound at a 28" draw.
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Post by Thomas Duvernay » Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:09 pm

It's been several years since I chrono'd a Korean horn bow. I really don't remember what the draw weight of the bow was, but the arrows were probably sub-400grs. The speed was 210 fps.

One of these days, I will have to do it again in a methodical fashion. Right now, I just wish I had time to get out and shoot :(


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Post by Fox » Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:20 am

I just back from a shooting section, using the Hwarang bows you got me. As usual, they are great and I am shooting 80m as well as few metres at horseback style. It is going to be two years since I had them. I am glad I still manage to be out weekly for half day!

It would be nice that we can study the bow systematically!

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Post by ginni » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:06 am

The Korean hornbow can be made with heavy draw weight?
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Post by Thomas Duvernay » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:58 pm

Eugen,

There have been some Korean HBs made at relatively high draw weights (70#+), but they are the exception rather than the rule.
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Post by ginni » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:24 pm

I have understood that the Koreans archers usually shoot with medium to light draw weights.
What I want to know is if the design of the modern hornbow can take the stress for a heavy weight bow and if such a bow (let say 100 lbs @ 33") is reliable and have the enduranace of a war bow.

In the past, how strong was the korean war bow?
I know almost nothing about the evolution of the korean bow in time. :(
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Post by Bede » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:38 pm

There are some very heavy Korean bows in the Grayson Collection. They are clearly closely related to modern horn bows, but have wooden bellies. Their limbs are thick and wide in proportion to Korean target bows. They are also longer. Being reflexed, it is difficult to guess their weights without a model based on similar bows in action. They are too old to be strung.

Quoting the online image:
164 cm long; 5.2 cm wide at mid-limb; 1.7 cm thick at mid-limb.

MAC 1998-0112
The URL to the pages with Korean equipment is http://anthromuseum.missouri.edu/grayso ... ery2.shtml
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Post by ginni » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:28 am

These bows are very reflexed. What wood can be used for such bow? The limb look very thick and is a lot of compression in the belly.
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Post by Bede » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:37 am

I wish I knew what the wood was. It looks like a fruit wood. The Korean bowyers built several strongly reflexed bows from wood, bamboo and sinew. They show great skill in their construction and more knowledge of wood properties than I have.
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Post by Thomas Duvernay » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:20 pm

I don't know the exact answer, but Korean bowyers down the centuries had quite an affinity for mulberry.
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Post by ginni » Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:13 am

Thomas,

I'm wondering if the first and the fourth bows from Grayson Archery Collection are ceremonial bows, like the bow presented here:
http://www.hornbow.com/yegoong.html
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