After I heard from Mr. Dwyer about the painting of longbow carried by horsemen of ancient northern dynasties of China, I found the picture below from the web.
It's one of the art series called "Hillfox art series", featuring several pictures showing reconstructed ancient Chinese armies including mounted archers of war-chariots.
I wonder whether the picture below is based on the same painting that Mr. Bede had mentioned before. I once sought to search the painting by myself, but there were too many northern dynasties during 4~6 century and 10th century. Can anyone inform me about this matter?
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this painting is wangkewei describe a battle of china han dynasty and huns, the han dynasty general called huoqubing（霍去病）,this battle has two part,
after part one , in the B.c.121 spring ,10000 cavalry of chinese died 7000, the huns died 8960 and two kings, a prince and many minister of huns become captive, the huns important sacred "gold man" become trophy of chinese ;
the part two: in same year summer,he kiiled 30000 huns, 5 kings,59 princes and 63 ministers
after this battle , the huns said : lost our qilianshan mountain, our livestock near the annihilation, lost our yanzhishan mountain. our woman has no cosmetic for useing
maybe the silk road open after this battle
http://www.cgw.cn/image/img00000036/127 ... 187500.jpg
more than 110000 huns huoqubing killed in his lifeing, the battlefield form Dunhuang to Baikal
元狩二年（公元前121）的春天，霍去病被任命为骠骑将军，独自率领精兵一万出征匈奴。这就是河西大战。
19岁的统帅霍去病不负众望，在千里大漠中闪电奔袭，打了一场漂亮的大迂回战。六天中他转战匈奴五部落，一路猛进，并在皋兰山与匈奴卢侯、折兰王打了一场硬碰硬的生死战。在此战中，霍去病惨胜，一万精兵仅余三千人。而匈奴更是损失惨重??卢侯王和折兰王都战死，浑邪王子及相国、都尉被俘虏，斩敌八千九百六十，匈奴休屠祭天金人也成了汉军的战利品。在这一场血与火的对战之后，汉王朝中再也没有人质疑少年霍去病的统军能力，他成为汉军中的一代军人楷模、尚武精神的化身。
同年夏天，汉武帝决定乘胜追击，展开收复河西之战。
此战，霍去病成为汉军的统帅，而多年的老将李广等人只作为他的策应部队。令人哭笑不得的是，配合作战的公孙敖等常跑大漠的?老马?还不如两年前的长安公子霍去病，居然在大漠中迷了路，没有起到应有的助攻作用。而老将李广所部则被匈奴左贤王包围。霍去病遂再次孤军深入，并再次大胜。就在祁连山，霍去病所部斩敌三万余人，俘虏匈奴王爷五人以及匈奴大小瘀氏、匈奴王子五十九人、相国将军当户都尉共计六十三人。
经此一役，匈奴不得不退到焉支山北，汉王朝收复了河西平原。曾经在汉王朝头上为所欲为、使汉朝人家破人亡无数的匈奴终于也唱出了哀歌：?亡我祁连山，使我六畜不蕃息；失我燕支山，使我妇女无颜色。?
从此，汉军军威大振，而十九岁的霍去病更成了令匈奴人闻风丧胆的战神。
真正使霍去病有如天神的事情是?河西受降?，发生的时间在秋天。
两场河西大战后，匈奴单于想狠狠地处理一再败阵的浑邪王，消息走漏后浑邪王和休屠王便想要投降汉朝。汉武帝不知匈奴二王投降的真假，遂派霍去病前往黄河边受降。当霍去病率部度过黄河的时候，果然匈奴降部中发生了哗变。面对这样的情形，霍去病竟然只带着数名亲兵就亲自冲进了匈奴营中，直面浑邪王，下令他诛杀哗变士卒。我们永远也猜想不出此时的浑邪王心里都在想些什么。那一刻他完全有机会把霍去病扣为人质或杀之报仇，只要他这样做了，单于不但不会杀他反而要奖赏他。然而最终浑邪王放弃了，这名敢于孤身犯险不惧生死的少年的气势镇住了他。霍去病的气势不但镇住了浑邪王，同时也镇住了四万多名匈奴人，他们最终没有将哗变继续扩大。
河西受降顺利结束，而今天的我们却只能用景仰的心努力想象，那个局势迷离危机四伏的时候，那位十九岁的少年是怎样站在敌人的营帐里，仅仅用一个表情一个手势就将帐外四万兵卒、八千乱兵制服的。
汉王朝的版图上，从此多了武威、张掖、酒泉、敦煌四郡。河西走廊正式并入汉王朝。这是中国历史上第一次面对外虏的受降，不但为饱受匈奴侵扰之苦百年的汉朝人扬眉吐气，更从此使汉朝人有了身为强者的信心。
after part one , in the B.c.121 spring ,10000 cavalry of chinese died 7000, the huns died 8960 and two kings, a prince and many minister of huns become captive, the huns important sacred "gold man" become trophy of chinese ;
the part two: in same year summer,he kiiled 30000 huns, 5 kings,59 princes and 63 ministers
after this battle , the huns said : lost our qilianshan mountain, our livestock near the annihilation, lost our yanzhishan mountain. our woman has no cosmetic for useing
maybe the silk road open after this battle
http://www.cgw.cn/image/img00000036/127 ... 187500.jpg
more than 110000 huns huoqubing killed in his lifeing, the battlefield form Dunhuang to Baikal
元狩二年（公元前121）的春天，霍去病被任命为骠骑将军，独自率领精兵一万出征匈奴。这就是河西大战。
19岁的统帅霍去病不负众望，在千里大漠中闪电奔袭，打了一场漂亮的大迂回战。六天中他转战匈奴五部落，一路猛进，并在皋兰山与匈奴卢侯、折兰王打了一场硬碰硬的生死战。在此战中，霍去病惨胜，一万精兵仅余三千人。而匈奴更是损失惨重??卢侯王和折兰王都战死，浑邪王子及相国、都尉被俘虏，斩敌八千九百六十，匈奴休屠祭天金人也成了汉军的战利品。在这一场血与火的对战之后，汉王朝中再也没有人质疑少年霍去病的统军能力，他成为汉军中的一代军人楷模、尚武精神的化身。
同年夏天，汉武帝决定乘胜追击，展开收复河西之战。
此战，霍去病成为汉军的统帅，而多年的老将李广等人只作为他的策应部队。令人哭笑不得的是，配合作战的公孙敖等常跑大漠的?老马?还不如两年前的长安公子霍去病，居然在大漠中迷了路，没有起到应有的助攻作用。而老将李广所部则被匈奴左贤王包围。霍去病遂再次孤军深入，并再次大胜。就在祁连山，霍去病所部斩敌三万余人，俘虏匈奴王爷五人以及匈奴大小瘀氏、匈奴王子五十九人、相国将军当户都尉共计六十三人。
经此一役，匈奴不得不退到焉支山北，汉王朝收复了河西平原。曾经在汉王朝头上为所欲为、使汉朝人家破人亡无数的匈奴终于也唱出了哀歌：?亡我祁连山，使我六畜不蕃息；失我燕支山，使我妇女无颜色。?
从此，汉军军威大振，而十九岁的霍去病更成了令匈奴人闻风丧胆的战神。
真正使霍去病有如天神的事情是?河西受降?，发生的时间在秋天。
两场河西大战后，匈奴单于想狠狠地处理一再败阵的浑邪王，消息走漏后浑邪王和休屠王便想要投降汉朝。汉武帝不知匈奴二王投降的真假，遂派霍去病前往黄河边受降。当霍去病率部度过黄河的时候，果然匈奴降部中发生了哗变。面对这样的情形，霍去病竟然只带着数名亲兵就亲自冲进了匈奴营中，直面浑邪王，下令他诛杀哗变士卒。我们永远也猜想不出此时的浑邪王心里都在想些什么。那一刻他完全有机会把霍去病扣为人质或杀之报仇，只要他这样做了，单于不但不会杀他反而要奖赏他。然而最终浑邪王放弃了，这名敢于孤身犯险不惧生死的少年的气势镇住了他。霍去病的气势不但镇住了浑邪王，同时也镇住了四万多名匈奴人，他们最终没有将哗变继续扩大。
河西受降顺利结束，而今天的我们却只能用景仰的心努力想象，那个局势迷离危机四伏的时候，那位十九岁的少年是怎样站在敌人的营帐里，仅仅用一个表情一个手势就将帐外四万兵卒、八千乱兵制服的。
汉王朝的版图上，从此多了武威、张掖、酒泉、敦煌四郡。河西走廊正式并入汉王朝。这是中国历史上第一次面对外虏的受降，不但为饱受匈奴侵扰之苦百年的汉朝人扬眉吐气，更从此使汉朝人有了身为强者的信心。
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It's not this painting. There is a Liao Dynasty wall painting from a tomb that shows mounted archers with very straight bows apparently wrapped in silk. I have a copy of the picture; but I might need a bit of time to find it.
These bows have every appearance of being longbows.; but a wall painting can't be authoritative as a source. At that time, it seems that all the neighbouring tribes were using horn recurve bows. Another interesting thing about Liao archers is that they regularly used a bracer on the arm.
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These bows have every appearance of being longbows.; but a wall painting can't be authoritative as a source. At that time, it seems that all the neighbouring tribes were using horn recurve bows. Another interesting thing about Liao archers is that they regularly used a bracer on the arm.
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