Who's Bow is BEST???

TradArcher · Post by **TradArcher** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:15 pm

Hi Greg
Here is link to my web albums
http://picasaweb.google.com/tradarcher
I took some pics, unfortunatelu charger for my camera is at my work but I did with my phone so quality could be better

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Also you can visit Grozer shop, here is a page with Turkish bows http://archery.maupa.org/?page=15

All the best
Jan

greg.krankurs · Post by **greg.krankurs** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:23 am

great looking bows!
Thanks for sharing the pics

Rob Taylor · Post by **Rob Taylor** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:48 am

TradArcher,
You say your TRH Turkish is making 70 m/s? Can you tell me the rest of the specifications of that setup?

What draw weight at what draw length shooting what total weight of arrow makes that 70 m/s?

Thanks.
-ROb

TradArcher · Post by **TradArcher** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:29 am

Dear Rob

TRH 85#, 16s FF, ACC 3-49/390 or Cartel X-Pert 580 cant remember now but probably Cartel fletched with SpineWings, 31,5" draw, 3 fingers. Chrono was checked at (Im not sure correct english name for that institution) Criminal Police Ballistic Center. Tests were made at Jarek Bełza's place. I think that Adam Karpowicz will agree that Jarek's tests are probably most reliable on the planet

The dark one (63#) up on the picture shots 415m with ACE, as I remeber shots 57 m/s with carbon and FF.

White one on the bottom was custom made for me but I had no chance yet to test it with chrono but it is damn fast. It is brand new, shot once , waiting for small cosmetics and I will make a new string.

Tests of penetration on other gallery were made with natural composite (middle on pic). My favorite one but not used for competition.

Largest gallery is from 24h shooting competition (I slept only 1,5h). After twice around the clock game I almost died but we had really lot of fun there

All the best
Janek

Rob Taylor · Post by **Rob Taylor** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:41 pm

Oh jeez....THAT'S why it seemed so fast....a gorilla class draw weight...LOL. Ok, just been looking for real speed numbers on the TRH series or any other Hungarian bows. Looks like (unfortunately) that if the TRH series is the fastest of the fast made in Hungary, they're all relative dogs. I'm looking for something else in a short "horsebow" style that will even hold a candle to my Hwarang.....I thought maybe Grozier's offerings would do so, but it sure doesn't sound like it. Thanks much for the info anyway.
-Rob

jiao · Post by **jiao** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:01 pm

form my viewpoint,the bow i like it , it is best ! enough!

Orda Khan · Post by **Orda Khan** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:01 pm

Rob,
Speed of cast is not necessarily everything, is it? I was very tempted by the Hwarang as a new bow for my wife. It is small and light and reports of its performance are very good. Now practicality has to be considered also...
We are Field Archers, shooting in woodland and quite often (in 2007, all but 2 tournaments) in the rain. How well the birch bark covering of the Hwarang would hold up in these conditions I do not know but I suspect it would not be long before the bow deteriorated, in appearance at least.
The TRH Hun is light, performs well, is easily fast enough and can handle the elements.

ginni · Post by **ginni** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:27 pm

Jan,

What type is this bow?
http://picasaweb.google.com/tradarcher/ ... 0484531122

TradArcher · Post by **TradArcher** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:01 pm

Ginni,
It is Wind Fighter, very popular and quite cheap korean bow, surprisingly lot of wood inside. Very light and good for mounted archery. Can be drawn smoothly and long. One terrible thing is lack used - looks like Hyundai, metallic black sprinkling on the sun and red back. Better pics are here http://www.luksport.pl/sklepik/product_ ... cts_id=540

With TRH I wrote in previous post is little correction I read now, it is 80#.

Janek

ginni · Post by **ginni** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:23 pm

I think this is the new model of Kaya bow. I am very curious about this bow, how work, how stable is, how fast. You can make a comparisson with Grozer trh?

It have a very reflexed shape.

You are right abou the finish, this bow looks like my skis.

Rob Taylor · Post by **Rob Taylor** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:51 am

No, speed is not EVERYTHING....but it is very important. I don't see the sense in intentionally buying a dog. I mostly hunt with my bows, but have yet to find anything in the "horsebow" style that is suitable performance-wise for hunting. I am not about to have to shoot a bunch more weight just to use a short Asian/Steppe style bow. I find it unusual that chronographing these bows is so rare....everyone speaks only in subjective terms that, while they sound nice, mean squat.

Of course I would give up a little speed for shootability, but remember...in my case.....the Asian bow I am looking for has to outperform my American stickbows to be of any use to me hunting....and that's a darn tall order.

Still shopping......

-Rob

TradArcher · Post by **TradArcher** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:49 am

Ginni
I found Kaya on the net and it really looks like a WindFighter with different finish. WF is available in Poland since 2 or 3 years. They made few modifications during that time. The bow is delicate and ultralight, you feel it as made of paper. It is pretty fast but I heard opinions that is not so stable, personally I didnt. Ive seen some with slightly twisted limbs.
Janek

TradArcher · Post by **TradArcher** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:13 am

Orda Khan
I agree with you, speed is important but not most important. For me best bow is one you feel it and gives you pleasure of shooting. When is smoothly drawn stable during shot and when you cant feel the shot in bowhand and of course accuracy

Janek

ginni · Post by **ginni** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:25 pm

Rob,

I mostly hunt with my bows, but have yet to find anything in the "horsebow" style that is suitable performance-wise for hunting.

You are saying that your hwarang is not suitable for hunting because of his low speed or performance?

jiao · Post by **jiao** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:39 pm

hai ginni, your bows is hwarang so good than my SKB, but it seemed i am got more pleasure after i use right arrows nock, are you still has some trouble use hwarang?

it seemd before 20 years ago, we are called comrade ginni and comrade jiao