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Post by jak » Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:56 am

archery :

corean :gungdoo ok japan :kyudo ok and please:

in chinese? mongolian?

horseback archery:

korean? chinese? mongolian?

other country?

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Post by Stephen Selby » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:11 am

corean :gungdoo ok japan :kyudo ok and please:

in chinese? She Yi 射艺

mongolian? Nom Sum Kharvlaa

horseback archery: Chine: Qi She 骑射
Monglol: Moriloor Kharvlaa
Korean: Ki Sa 骑射

other country?
Manchu/Xibe: beri-i khevdem

These words (together with others) can be seen in their original scripts here:

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Post by jak » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:40 pm

thank you very much
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Post by Hyarmendacil » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:43 am

In Indonesian (and several related regional languages), the bow is called busur and the arrows panah. Archery is known as panahan while the act of shooting is called memanah (the me- prefix attached to the noun panah turns it into an active verbs.

With the great variety of local and regional languages in Indonesia, it's easy to understand why some of them use somewhat different terms for archery and its equipment. Gendawa, for example, is a common synonym for "busur" in Javanese languages, and in these languages the verb for archery takes the shorter form manah, which is a homonym for "heart"--perhaps a conscious reference to the use of archery as a tool for spiritual development.
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Post by Metin Ates » Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:47 pm

Some examples of archery terms in Turkish:

Archery: ok?uluk (okchuluk)

Archer: ok?u (okchu). old: kemankeş (kemankesh), tirendaz, ramiyan.
* keman-kes: bow-drawer
* tir-endaz: arrow-shooter
* ramiyan: shooter. (ram: shot)

Mounted archery: atlı ok?uluk ("atli" with dotless i). Mean is "archery with horse"

Arrow: ok. old: tir

Bow: yay. old: keman, kavs.
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Post by Dusan » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:47 pm

In Slovak language "bow" : luk
Archer : Lukostrelec
Archery : Lukostrelectvo
Arrow : ??p - it is synonymum like name of wild roses : ??pov? ru?a.
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Post by Jos?Dom » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:03 pm

In Spanish:

Bow : Arco
Archer : Arquero
Archery : Arqueria
Arrow : Flecha

Pretty easy :wink:
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Post by ginni » Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:50 am

in romanian:

bow - arc
archer - arcaș
arrow - săgeată
bowyer - arcar
archery - arcășie
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In Hellenic

Post by Aristotle » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:44 am

In Hellenic :

ARCHERY: TOΞΟΒΟΛΙΑ [toxovolia]

BOW: ΤΟΞΟΝ [toxon]

ARCHER: ΤΟΞΟΤΗΣ [toxotis]

ARROW: BEΛΟΣ [velos]

HORSEBACK ARCHERY: ΕΦΙΠΠΗ ΤΟΞΟΒΟΛΙΑ [efipi toxovolia]

HORSEBACK ARCHER: ΕΦΙΠΠΟΤΟΞΟΤΗΣ [efipotoxotis]

HORSE: IΠΠΟΣ [ipos]

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Post by Stephen Selby » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:31 am

Aristotle,

In English, one word for 'poisonous' is 'toxic'. I understand that the English word is derived from Greek. Is there a Greek word for 'poisonous' that is related to the word for 'bow'? Any stories/ideas about that?
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Post by Jos?Dom » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:57 am

Isn't it curious that the scientific name of yew is Taxus, a word related to toxic and a classical bow wood. Maybe just a coincidence.
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Post by Aristotle » Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:10 am

Stephen Selby wrote:Aristotle,

In English, one word for 'poisonous' is 'toxic'. I understand that the English word is derived from Greek. Is there a Greek word for 'poisonous' that is related to the word for 'bow'? Any stories/ideas about that?
Dear Stephen,

As you know, the base of modern Hellenic is the Homeric-times language. Aforementioned posted terms ( Archery=Τοξοβολία , Bow= Τόξον ) of mine belong to that Helenic much after Homeric; these terms belong actually to the pure Hellenic language shaped after Roman times.
The relevant terms during Homeric-times were: ΑRCHERY=ΤΟΞΙΚΗ (toxiki) and BOW=ΒΙΟΣ (vios).
Concerning the Homeric name of the Bow (ΒΙΟΣ) in Hellenic means "life". This is because ancient Hellenes cinsider the Bow as the basic "tool" supporting life itself. But, they had also in mind its deeper significance as a death-instrument. Because of this, "TΩ ΟΥΝ ΤΟΞΩ ΟΝΟΜΑ ΒΙΟΣ ΕΡΓΟΝ ΔΕ ΘΑΝΑΤΟΣ" mentioned Heraclitus : The name of the Bow means "life" but its work is the death!
After all above, of course, there is a relation in Homeric language between "toxic" and "Archery" as the common point is death. And, of course, "toxic" is related to Archery (ΤΟΞΙΚΗ-toxiki). You are right!
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Post by Metin Ates » Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:34 am

Dear "Neighbour",
Thank you for this great explanation! that is the answer I'm curious about.
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Post by Guest » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:28 pm

Metin Ates wrote:Dear "Neighbour",
Thank you for this great explanation! that is the answer I'm curious about.
You are welcome! :D
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