arrow slapping riser on release

moghul · Post by **moghul** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:51 am

im new here, and am wondering how many of you have a technique where the arrows does not hit the riser upon release. I am working on this, but it is very hard to accomplish. any tips or techniques? I desire to shoot like this to aid in hunting, so that the arrow does not parallax in the short distance to the deer. thanks

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:58 am

What type of bow and release technique are you using?

moghul · Post by **moghul** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:07 am

sorry, I am using a spitfire horsebow with a thumbring. thanks for the response

Stephen Selby · Post by **Stephen Selby** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:43 am

While your techique might be to blame, a mis-match between your arrow length/arrow spine and the bow could also be the cause. See whether the problem goes away when you do some other release that you are familiar with (e.g. Mediterranean?). If it doesn't, try some different arrow lengths and spines.

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:47 pm

Stephen is right. Technique is not the only cause of the nock slapping the arrow pass. Too long a string can cause the problem. So can using an arrow that is too whippy. The major thumb draw problem is turning the drawing hand towards the arrow, putting too much pressure on the nock with the side of the index finger.

Once the arrow is stiff enough for the bow, increasing the stiffness usually only causes it to strike further to one side and somewhat lower (because the arrow is heavier).

moghul · Post by **moghul** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:36 am

I do feel that my arrows should be stiff enough. The bow only pulls around thirty pounds and I am using carbons with 85 grain points.

The tail of th arrow near the fletching barely hits the riser. With fletched arrows it barely affects flight, but with bareshafts they go nock right and fly to the left of the target. Should I just be happy with this? I would love to have proper bare shaft flight..........

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:42 pm

More questions: At what distance are you shooting the unfletched shafts?

moghul · Post by **moghul** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:50 am

I am shooting at eighteen yards. the arrows fly nock right and miss a foot or two left of the bull. when I draw twenty eight inches I can bareshaft better, but pullin thirty creates more riser slap. thanks for any help you can give

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:15 am

At a guess, I would say that as you get past 28 inches, your drawing hand is either turning slightly towards the arrow or you are closing the gap between the base of your index finger and your thumb.

Both of these things would put pressure on the nock. From what you are writing, it is not causing too much of a problem. However, usually unfletched arrows were shot at 2 metres or at over 40 metres. In the first case it was used to check the initial release effects. In the second case, it was used to check smoothness of release.

The Turks used torba gezi arrows to shoot into a close target and hava gezi ones for practicing distance shooting. The torba gezi arrow was used to tune the archer in the way Olympic archers use unfletched arrows to tune their bow equipment (pressure buttons etc.).